182FF suspension options

[Yellow Dave]

Right I've been reading through so many threads regarding this lately that I'm sick of the search function.

I'm after something to lower the car a little (but not much) and help improve the handling. My 182 has the cup suspension kit so I'm limited in choice. I've had Eibach Sportlines fitted but took them off as I felt the ride was crashy due to not being matched with the OE dampers. Before anyone says it, my dampers are fine and ride lovely with the standard springs. So I tried looking for aftermarket dampers but no luck.

I'm now considering a full kit, something like the V-Maxx/ Raceland/ KTR coilover kit. I don't have a huge budget so is it worth buying the cheaper kits? What is the ride like on them and whats the smallest amount I can lower them. I have to drive around building sites so I need a little gound clearance.

What are peoples thoughts on these or other recommedations?

 

[The Boosh!]

I really like the KTR suspension. Teamed up with the whiteline ARB and uprated dogbone mount the car feels awesome to drive!

If I were doing it all over again however, I think id invest in some KW v2's. Simple reason being my cars becoming more track focused.

KTR jobbies are spot on for road use though.

 

[ForceIndia]

I really like the KTR suspension. Teamed up with the whiteline ARB and uprated dogbone mount the car feels awesome to drive!

If I were doing it all over again however, I think id invest in some KW v2's. Simple reason being my cars becoming more track focused.

KTR jobbies are spot on for road use though.

You can't get v2's for the 182 with cup packs. If you want a ride quality better than sportlines, while going lower, you're in dreamland. I've had several coilover kits, none ride that well. The v2's are the closest, but not as good as standard being honest.

You can't go low and keep the standard ride quality.

 

[ForceIndia]

I'd call fred@btm. He's fitted and driven cars with the vmaxx and raceland setups, so could give you an honest idea of the ride quality.

 

[Tom]

H&R's are pretty good on the road PROVIDING you don't drop it on the floor.

 

[The Boosh!]

You can't get v2's for the 182 with cup packs. If you want a ride quality better than sportlines, while going lower, you're in dreamland. I've had several coilover kits, none ride that well. The v2's are the closest, but not as good as standard being honest.

You can't go low and keep the standard ride quality.

You can if you file out the bottom bolt spacing a couple of MM warren

 

[Yellow Dave]

Forgot to mention, it won't be used on track. Also if I could find dampers to match the eibach springs the ride would be a lot better. But I can't.

I don't want much of a drop (30mm max) and willing to sacrifice a little comfort as long as it's not crashy

 

[ForceIndia]

You can if you file out the bottom bolt spacing a couple of MM warren

Cool, didn't know that. Best kit I've used, on soft they ride marginally better than h&r. For the op I'd probably try eibach prolines with a whiteline arb. Cheap, and the springs will be easy to move on if you don't get on with them.

 

[182SURREY]

Ive just had Vmaxx put on the 182FF last week. Better handling than standard and not to crashy.

Few pics to see what you think....

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=501993

 

[The Boosh!]

Cool, didn't know that. Best kit I've used, on soft they ride marginally better than h&r. For the op I'd probably try eibach prolines with a whiteline arb. Cheap, and the springs will be easy to move on if you don't get on with them.

I wouldn't normally go vandalizing a £700+ set of coilovers, but Grays car handles SO well. Just trying to pursuade myself that they are worth the £££ more on top of the current ones I have (which atm I haven't got any problems with):dapprove:

 

[Hugo-]

I've got H & R's and compared to my old FK's on the cup they are a league ahead.

Matt

 

[Fred@BTM]

there might be something in the pipeline

 

[Gray]

I wouldn't normally go vandalizing a £700+ set of coilovers, but Grays car handles SO well. Just trying to pursuade myself that they are worth the £££ more on top of the current ones I have (which atm I haven't got any problems with):dapprove:

All down to the driving..... lol

 

[The Boosh!]

there might be something in the pipeline

Am I allowed to be kept informed about this

 

[Yellow Dave]

there might be something in the pipeline

any clues of what it might be? a koni damper kit to fit the cup pack would be nice. :approve:

 

[leeroybrown]

any clues of what it might be? a koni damper kit to fit the cup pack would be nice. :approve:

I agree!

 

[Yellow Dave]

Ive just had Vmaxx put on the 182FF last week. Better handling than standard and not to crashy.

Few pics to see what you think....

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=501993

Ride height looks about right for what I'm after. Whats the overal ride like.

 

[Jonny1*2]

there might be something in the pipeline

Am I allowed to be kept informed about this

It's been in the BTM section for a while Luke Got some AST's while I wait You never know how long these pipes are though

 

[Jonny1*2]

any clues of what it might be? a koni damper kit to fit the cup pack would be nice. :approve:

Email Fred and he'll tell you . I can tell you it's not koni though

 

[Fred@BTM]

proper job this, i love zee germans

 

[The Boosh!]

proper job this, i love zee germans

MOAR!

 

[Yellow Dave]

A random thought but if I wanted to use the non cup koni suspension and dampers, what would I need to change other than the hubs to make my 182 non cup so they would fit, or is it not that easy?

Would there be any negative side to doing this?

 

[The Boosh!]

A random thought but if I wanted to use the non cup koni suspension and dampers, what would I need to change other than the hubs to make my 182 non cup so they would fit, or is it not that easy?

Would there be any negative side to doing this?

Just file out the bottom hole a little bit. Will only take you about half hour.

 

[Yellow Dave]

How much bigger would I need to make the hole? can you remeber what the different bolt spacings are?

 

[The Boosh!]

Not too sure mate but it will be obvious when you come to fit em how much you need to remove

 

[Yellow Dave]

does anyone rate the Koni damper kits? As I'd rather go this route than having coilovers, as I'll never take it on track so don't nede anythignthat full on

 

[mat-nos]

might be worth looking at bilstien b12 dampers for yor eibach springs??
not sure if they do them in ff spacing mind........

 

[Yellow Dave]

can't find any b12 for any of the 1*2's on a quick search

 

[timmyd]

Best thing to do is ring Ktec and ask there opionin, they may able to help.
Also ring mark fish, he recommended ebiach springs and Koni dampers.

 

[SkidMarx]

How much bigger would I need to make the hole? can you remeber what the different bolt spacings are?

Not sure you can file the hole out TBH mate, sure theres about 6mm difference between cup and non-cup.

 

[The Boosh!]

Not sure you can file the hole out TBH mate, sure theres about 6mm difference between cup and non-cup.

(other) Dave did it with his Leda's on his RB track car mate... Granted you might need a little more than a file, but I don't think its 6mm is it?

 

[timmyd]

Isn't it 54mm and 58mm...

 

[LiquidRich]

I fitted spaxs non cup coil overs to our cup packed 182. The hole spacing is 58 on the cup hubs and 54 on the standard hubs. Plus the hub is 1mm thicker on the cup hub. I modded the spax I brought by slotting the bottom holes out and opening up the gap between the legs.

 

[Da]

It's 54mm to 60mm, so is 6mm different overall.

Personally, I'd say new OE shocks and Eibach Sportlines. Top mounts would be good too and an ARB but that depends on what you want from the car.

 

[drhowser]

as far as i can remember, Koni are one of the few cheaper dampers to use a seperate valve for compression and rebound, the same as a much more expensive set.

i think most cheap sets have one valve to control both cycles, this gives a less supple ride and wears faster.

 

[Yellow Dave]

It's 54mm to 60mm, so is 6mm different overall.

Personally, I'd say new OE shocks and Eibach Sportlines. Top mounts would be good too and an ARB but that depends on what you want from the car.

already have eibach sportlines and had them fitted with fairly new OE dampers, ride was very crashy as they were so un-matched so took them off. nothing wrong with the dampers either as its fine with OE springs.

My dad was a MK2 Ph1 RSi K4M with a Jamex (I think) suspension kit and his rides much better than mine did whilst still giving a firm drive and very little body roll.

Just looked at Yozza and K-Tec sites and they offer Koni's kits with Koni springs, any opinions on these

 

[Da]

Try Prolines then, I agree Sportlines are a bit crashy - Pro for go, Sport for show.

 

[Gaz_]

You can if you file out the bottom bolt spacing a couple of MM warren

6mm, then with the cack haned file/drill, how would you know the hole ended up enlarged to the right place? Might be too far left/right then all the measurements will be c**k eyed

If only it was so simple!

 

[LiquidRich]

6mm, then with the cack haned file/drill, how would you know the hole ended up enlarged to the right place? Might be too far left/right then all the measurements will be c**k eyed

If only it was so simple!

Its ok to slot the holes out just do it, right I'd agree a file isn't the way to do it. I just chucked them on a milling machine, they were a bit of a git to hold though lol

 

[The Boosh!]

It really isn't that bad Gaz!

When yo look at how my k-tec coilovers have been machined out, I would be able to do it myself with a drill - And people will vouch for me here - I am a r****d.

The point I am trying to get across is, its doable if you want it enough.