197 Cup news?

[Tom]

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=16169

Interesting :evil:

 

[Graham Gooch]

I think this 'drastic' weight loss and subsequent performance gain that people are expecting on the cup won't materialize then.

 

[ado]

How fancy is the stereo in the 197 now?

 

[martynh]

Hmm, does this give any weight saving over standard?

Has anyone seen any reviews on the R27?

 

[Dash]

ABS?

 

[MarkCup]

ABS?

Nope, got to have it now, it's a legal requirement or something.

So have Renault finally admitted to this? Or is it just PH "speculating"?

 

[seb]

i jsut couldn't have a modern car without aircon! sad i know!

the basci radio only has two speakers lol

doesn't look like much of a weight saving. time will tell!

 

[ado]

Thats what I was thinking seb. How fancy is the standard radio? LOL

 

[seb]

the standard radio is not fancy at all. lol 2 speakers and a cd player.

anyone for a tape deck on the 197 cup?

 

[ado]

Does the standard have the 2 tweeter? Makes all the difference in weight you know. LOL

 

[Englebert]

The race version has a few other bits to improve the steering. Considering they are built in the same factory i don't see why more parts can't be carried over, and an LSD of course.

The problem for the R27 is that Renault aren't winning in F1 anymore, which is probably why they're already working on the Cup.

I find it laughably stupid that they continue to use these array of model names though, idiots!

 

[sh33n]

Sounds crap, the F1 seems like the best buy.

But presumable you can Cup pack a normal 197 and that would be a good thing I'd assume.

Wonder what seats it will have as std.

 

[clio172cup20]

No LSD!!!!

 

[Dash]

Wonder what seats it will have as std.

None.

 

[Tom]

No LSD!!!!

Calm down!!!!

Nobody knows anything about the cup. That PH story is just them adding 2+2 together.

(with a bit of education thrown in.)

This is how pistonheads invented that story.

Step one

Its a slow news day, "ooh look the '197 F1 R27 fernando dont live here anymore' edition has a press release" http://www.press.renault.co.uk/releases/arc_2007/120407ren.htm

Step two
Extract this sentance:
This new limited edition is also the first Clio Renaultsport 197 to feature the new Cup Chassis, which will become optional on the standard model later in 2007.

Which obviously means (at pistonheads anyway) that renault are launching a cup model before december.
So all you do now is just assume it will have the same equipment as the last cup and bingo!

See its easy when you know how.

 

[clio172cup20]

Best to wait for the trophy version when that eventually arrives! I hate Renault, they are so exploitive of their buyers. Launch main car - sell a few. Launch cup - sell a few and get a few who bought base car to ungrade. Then launch trophy and repeat process. Why don't they just launch the proper version and be done with it!

 

[martynh]

More here http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11123

and

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Renault-Clio-Renaultsport-197-F1-Team-R27/225219/

 

[Tom]

All Speculation.

Until i see a renault release i reserve judgement.

 

[clio172cup20]

No LSD!!!!

Calm down!!!!

Nobody knows anything about the cup. That PH story is just them adding 2+2 together.

(with a bit of education thrown in.)

This is how pistonheads invented that story.

Step one

Its a slow news day, "ooh look the '197 F1 R27 fernando dont live here anymore' edition has a press release" http://www.press.renault.co.uk/releases/arc_2007/120407ren.htm

Step two
Extract this sentance:
This new limited edition is also the first Clio Renaultsport 197 to feature the new Cup Chassis, which will become optional on the standard model later in 2007.

Which obviously means (at pistonheads anyway) that renault are launching a cup model before december.
So all you do now is just assume it will have the same equipment as the last cup and bingo!

See its easy when you know how.

Your a lot brighter than you look!!!

 

[Josh@Renparts]

Best to wait for the trophy version when that eventually arrives! I hate Renault, they are so exploitive of their buyers. Launch main car - sell a few. Launch cup - sell a few and get a few who bought base car to ungrade. Then launch trophy and repeat process. Why don't they just launch the proper version and be done with it!

its called making money... theyre there for profit... its a business....

 

[172cupwizard]

Mmm just dont like the looks of the 197! will be nice to see a cup version in the flesh though.

 

[paul]

i like