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well, i have an R27 which is basically a 197 with a cup pack and tasty stuff like recaros and tinted windows etc..
day to day, the car is fantastic. it'll do the daily grind with ease, interior quality is a big step up from before.... dare i say it, but its not too far off german quality these days.
on weekend drives, the car never fails to put a smile on the face. the engine is actually more torquey than reviews would have u believe, but takin it abover 5500rpm is seriously addictive.
yes, the mpg is pretty pants compared to the 172. average, i'll get about 25-28 depending on how the car has been used that week. its not bad really considering what it is, but it is lower than the 172s.
The 197 cup has a bit of a naff interior imo, the plastics aren't as nice as the FF, but thats me just being fussy.
what i will say tho, the steering wheel on the FF 197s are lovely, but the cup steering wheel is lot more ordinary. not much, but a pretty big thing for me given thats what u'll be holding all the time!
day to day, the car is fantastic. it'll do the daily grind with ease, interior quality is a big step up from before.... dare i say it, but its not too far off german quality these days.
on weekend drives, the car never fails to put a smile on the face. the engine is actually more torquey than reviews would have u believe, but takin it abover 5500rpm is seriously addictive.
yes, the mpg is pretty pants compared to the 172. average, i'll get about 25-28 depending on how the car has been used that week. its not bad really considering what it is, but it is lower than the 172s.
The 197 cup has a bit of a naff interior imo, the plastics aren't as nice as the FF, but thats me just being fussy.
what i will say tho, the steering wheel on the FF 197s are lovely, but the cup steering wheel is lot more ordinary. not much, but a pretty big thing for me given thats what u'll be holding all the time!
Clio F1 R27
Hi mate, I own an R27 and I totally agree with evolution. Don't get the Cup, get a FF even if it's 2nd hand with no options.
They are superb cars and yes the build quality is not far off a Volkswagen.
The best way to desribe the 197/R27 to the 172/182 would be a precise, smooth and predictable driving experience rather than a bumpy, noisey and sometimes scary drive.
Most demo cars are run on standard unleaded and this car needs V-Power or a good super unleaded fuel. Bearing this in mind you can't believe the speed of this car until you have run it in properly and fed it a good diet.
The issues of short gear ratios which means more changes is not really anything more than a characteristic of the car. I generally stick it on cruise control at 70 on the motorway and its fine a about 3,500rpm. If you end up buying a car with the original gearbox, don't let that bother you as there's hardly anything in it.
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