Also drums are cheaper to fix / break less and easier to fix.
Don't look as "sporty" though which is the main reason they are fitted.
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2.0ltr Conversion Questions.
- Thread starter MDP91
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Don't look as "sporty" though which is the main reason they are fitted.
Messes up the abs system.
Persosnaly if I did a swop I'd keep the drums and get some abs rings made for the rear drums so they don't mess up the abs
Mcaff
ClioSport Club Member
the only reason you would consider a conversion should be if you can do it yourself. my car is engine converted however i got my friend to do it for me.
real world costs :
donner car £950
labour £500
belt kit £200 ?
then your talking what parts your going to change when your swapping everything over.
i changed all the bushes £200
bought cheep coilovers £200
braided brake hoses £50
then you have all your oils etc £100 +
theres more than that as well i replaced put away another £200 for other stuff
then mine had a problem when everything was fitted, got that fixed tracking done mot all in that cost another £300
then 4 miles into my first journey the power steering pump shat itself witch destroyed a belt/pully and the pump.
so its going to cost me another £4 - 500
ive made some money back on the non sport parts i didnt use maybe around £5 - 600
all in thats around £2600 - 2800
but thats just geting it running, what about the other parts you want to buy for it. i have ended up buying a lot more for it, decat/rarb/exhaust just to name a few things.
so it becomes rather expensive. buy a 172/182 a good one
my thread if you decided to do the stupid thing: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?568782-Project-s**tbox-172-(In-Need-Of-A-Good-Tidy-Up)
i think that makes ktecs price look good? with a warrenty etc
You must rebuild the engine before it goes in imo no point putting it in and something goes bang for it to come out again. i wish i had the time/money to have mine rebuilt.
real world costs :
donner car £950
labour £500
belt kit £200 ?
then your talking what parts your going to change when your swapping everything over.
i changed all the bushes £200
bought cheep coilovers £200
braided brake hoses £50
then you have all your oils etc £100 +
theres more than that as well i replaced put away another £200 for other stuff
then mine had a problem when everything was fitted, got that fixed tracking done mot all in that cost another £300
then 4 miles into my first journey the power steering pump shat itself witch destroyed a belt/pully and the pump.
so its going to cost me another £4 - 500
ive made some money back on the non sport parts i didnt use maybe around £5 - 600
all in thats around £2600 - 2800
but thats just geting it running, what about the other parts you want to buy for it. i have ended up buying a lot more for it, decat/rarb/exhaust just to name a few things.
so it becomes rather expensive. buy a 172/182 a good one
my thread if you decided to do the stupid thing: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?568782-Project-s**tbox-172-(In-Need-Of-A-Good-Tidy-Up)
i think that makes ktecs price look good? with a warrenty etc
You must rebuild the engine before it goes in imo no point putting it in and something goes bang for it to come out again. i wish i had the time/money to have mine rebuilt.
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That is true, bit of a rip of still then, lol!
Its not that its a ripoff, its just that you are paying their 60 quid an hour or whatever it is labour charge for them to do something that in a 172 has already been done at the factory.
I think the price is fair for a company to be doing the work, but its just not the sort of thing that makes financial sense. Its either DIY or dont do it IMHO, and even DIY its pretty pointless when the 1*2 are available so cheaply at the moment.
Its a bit like if you had a black 172 and wanted a blue one, you could spend 3K on a really good professional bare metal respray that isnt in anyway a ripoff for the work done, but it would be pointless compared to just selling up and buying one the right colour.
I think the price is fair for a company to be doing the work, but its just not the sort of thing that makes financial sense. Its either DIY or dont do it IMHO, and even DIY its pretty pointless when the 1*2 are available so cheaply at the moment.
Its a bit like if you had a black 172 and wanted a blue one, you could spend 3K on a really good professional bare metal respray that isnt in anyway a ripoff for the work done, but it would be pointless compared to just selling up and buying one the right colour.
Mcaff
ClioSport Club Member
I don't think ktecs price is a rip off at all they said to me it would be £1200 labour if I supplied the donner car,
But it would work out less expensive I think if you just went through them and let them get parts.
But sending it away and not being involved in the build takes away from the project!
In my eyes when my cars running it will be the car I've always wanted (bar the winter wheels)
Money shouldn't be the issue if your getting something you love, you have the wrong hobby if you're worried about money.
But it would work out less expensive I think if you just went through them and let them get parts.
But sending it away and not being involved in the build takes away from the project!
In my eyes when my cars running it will be the car I've always wanted (bar the winter wheels)
Money shouldn't be the issue if your getting something you love, you have the wrong hobby if you're worried about money.
I was in the same position as you mate love my 1.2 and fought about the conversion but K-Tec was to far from me so a just bought a 172...and on the case of the insurance a wouldn't tell them like many 2.0 litre corsa owners d...I know if you get caught you'd well and truely get raped but thats th chance you take but thats imo
Mcaff
ClioSport Club Member
Yeah they should do call them they are very helpful.
They are just like any garage they don't just do what is on their website.
They are just like any garage they don't just do what is on their website.
Mcaff
ClioSport Club Member
Smashing advice that is! Ah let's not insure our pride and joy.
What if you lose control hit a pedestrian/cyclist/baby in pram/bus stop full of people?
Mong.
I wouldnt chance not insuring it. My main reason being the fact that I am currently training to be a Special Constable, with aspiration at being a full time Officer! I also don't fancy loosing my license and everything else that come with getting in an accident and being non-insured.
Ive just got back from speaking to a guy on here who said he would be able to do a full conversion if I supplied the parts, like the donar car, belt kits etc etc, everything needed. Its not really the price of the conversion now. Its all the legal side of it and insuring the b*****d. Id imagine i'll get bum raped??
Okay, thank you. Also how do I go about changing it on my log from a 1.2?
Mcaff
ClioSport Club Member
Try greenlight very helpful
Any questions pm me
Any questions pm me
Insuracne canbe dione
As regards price from Ktec to fit I'm guessing they also cover fixing parts as few conversion fit and work straihgt out the box. I know one which had 2 gearboxes plus the original plus a new ECU/ UCH and an auto electricial on it for some time.
Mcaff
ClioSport Club Member
If/When they have a crash indsurance companies won't stop laughting they can walk away from any claim and claim all cost from 3rd partys to be claimed back from the owner. SO they would walk away with the owners premium + all there costs paid not a bad business.
O and its illegal so they have to legally pass the info onto the police so the owner can be suit for not having insurance/tax (since the tax is based on the engine the car is claimed to have on the V5 although funilly if they tell the truth on the V5 and it shows the right details there no more road tax due)
