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  E55, KitCar & '85 Quattro


In my humble opinion I would either sell the valver, garage it for 2 years or put a limiter on it.

Having said all that, my friend recieved 3points for doing 41 in a 30 (and they had set the camera at 40!) and hes still only been driving about 20months and has driven like a maniac the whole time. So you have to be quite unlucky to get caught again unless you drive blind!
 
  300bhp MR2 Turbo


Feel sorry for Blackcats bro though, what makes matters worse is that the police arent doing anything yet if he took matters in to his own hands he WOULD get sent down.
 


Quote: Originally posted by Matt16v on 22 July 2004


No one can say theyve never sped. Even taking into consideration that any car over say 7 years old prob isnt reading right on the speedo!








it may not be as accurate but not 8mph out. cameras to take account of 1/2 mph

although im sure that up to 50mph the speed is a little under the speedo reading and over 50 to a certain point its above the speedo reading. although if im wrong i stand corrected

Jay


[Edited by boyracer666 on 22 July 2004 at 12:22pm]
 


Quote: Originally posted by FN04 XZE on 22 July 2004


Quote: Originally posted by Matt16v on 22 July 2004
Yeah I do - see my earlier posts in this thread - All Im saying is if people speed they should expect a fine, just like I do - the only reason the govt make money from the speed cameras is because of law-breakers.... I dont agree with people moaning about speed cameras, theyre the law - whether you disagree with them or not, its the way it is, live with it!




Thats just it many of us dont see why we should simply live with it - even motoring organisations are not fully in support of cameras where they are clearly being used to simply generate revenue. I have nothing against cameras in built up areas (near schools and the like especially) and in proven accident hot spots. What pi**es me off is when they are placed on clear stretches of road in the middle of nowhere, sometimes not even clearly visible. Again I am only expressing an opinion and the last thing I want to do is start an argument with fellow enthusiasts - which is what I feel we all are in here.
 
  300bhp MR2 Turbo


Still think a caution would surfice the first few times instead of a very hefty fine and a criminal record.

Especially as for 2 years your living on a knife edge.
 


they have just put up about sixteen new cameras round morley. On the roads in question I havnt seen any flowers or accidents.

There are no cameras anywhere near my kids schools and heading up to Bruntcliffe high the cameras are all in places to catch people speeding on the striaghts pas t the industrial estate. There is one near the school and its pointing away from the school.

Nuff said.

Everyone on here is right, it is the law but then as everyone else is saying they are targetting people for money. What you have to look at is the spirit of the law not the word of the law. In a way this is abuse of the legal system for governmental gain.

The only person I disagree with is the person who said the government wanted us to stop speeding, yeah, like they want us to stop drinking and smoking and thats why they tax fags and booze...its cos they love use and care about us and want us to be safe and happy. B*gg*r me a large pink farm animal just went past the office window at Mach3!
 
  E55, KitCar & '85 Quattro


I think top gear summed it up brilliantly.

Here comes a drug dealer, high, in a stollen car, and completely incapable of breaking the speed limit. Camera doenst flash, hes not a criminal.

And here comes Osama Bin Laden, the worlds most wanted terroist, but he realises that he wont be apprehended if he doesnt exceed 30mph. Camera doenst flash, and hes safe.

And look, its a little old lady whos inidvertaintly strayed up to 34mph on her way to the village fate. And Flash, its got her good! What a criminal!

(Crash Bang Wallop, What A Memory!!!)
 
  300bhp MR2 Turbo


I think what that quote means is exactly what I said - cameras only make one descision.

They cant see some one swerving over the road unles theyre speeding and even so theyll only get 3 points and a fine through the post. If some one had been there to stop them then they would have been in real trouble.
 


Quote: Originally posted by blackcat on 22 July 2004


My brother owns a clothes shop and has 3 points against him for doing 84 down a DC.

People he catches shoplifting get arrested and released to come back and harrass him. He caught a "druggy" nicking only 3 weeks ago, he was threatened because the guy was desparate when he realised he was going to miss his hit. The guy was released without bail and came back to threaten my bro again, the guy never goes down for shoplifting as all the courts are willing to do is put him on a voluntary drug rehab program.

Where is the logic in the british legal system today?





There is NO logic....its a damn shame.

When my car (5GTT) was nicked 18 months ago the police did fack all, they put the reg number on a stolen car data base, and thats all.

The guy that stole the car put on new plates so it would never be found.

It was found only because the police did a routine stop and check and the guy drove off and got involed in a police chase which ended up with my car being totalled and the driver killed (Result...lol)

Had we only had speed cameras then my car would have got "lost" for a lot longer, we need policeman instead of cameras to stop bad and dangerous drivers.... too much money spent on speed cameras is not as good as money spent on policemen and police cars imho.

I dont condone speeding as such, but weather, traffic, road, car and driver conditions must be taken into account for whether to fine or NOT.....

Simon.
 
  300bhp MR2 Turbo


I hope the thief died horribly.

My mates Corsa was stolen a few years back, I saw it parked up and went strait to the police station and told them the new plate that was on it. I told them where it was parked.

Did they send a car - no - I went back to find out if the shop (Elite) had taken any details and nothing from the police.

At the time this car was quite new and worth a fair bit so I think thats harsh.
 
  2004 1.2 Dynamique


the police camera vans although must be within half a mile of a designated speed camera, or a speed camera sign, otherwise they cant get you for it, they have to give some sort of warning that a camera is ahead another 2 years crusing at 30mph for me:( bummer!!!
 
  M140i/Orange 182


Quote: Originally posted by FelixWood on 22 July 2004

i got £60 for 73 in a 40 limit! so your £80 does seem a bit steep!
mate,

how many points did u get for this? as i think i got caught doin just over 60 in a 40, ant had nuffin in the post yest and this was a week ago now.....
 
  car? need a license 1st!


First of all Joel, how the f**k did u get a valver at 17? they are a high insurance group, i think its either a a lie or u are some kind of rich boy :)



second of all, your all idiots for speeding, especially in towns (30 limits in built up areas) if u dont speed, u dont get caught, simple as :) ive nearly finished my 2 year period and i havent had one convicition :)



oh yeah.. *ping*
 


Quote: Originally posted by Chewy on 22 July 2004


First of all Joel, how the f**k did u get a valver at 17? they are a high insurance group, i think its either a a lie or u are some kind of rich boy :)



second of all, your all idiots for speeding, especially in towns (30 limits in built up areas) if u dont speed, u dont get caught, simple as :) ive nearly finished my 2 year period and i havent had one convicition :)



oh yeah.. *ping*





Good on yer.... I have been driving for years and never had a conviction either, doesnt make Speed right though does it??

Top Gear summed it up correct, see post up this page...

Simon.
 
  don't


been driving 2 years, 2 months ish now, no convictions

has 7 day wonders but thats all, ok i speed on a regular occurance

had 1 of my cars wrote off b4 bcos sum bloke was speeding and crashed in2 me, i refused 2 let him move his car and got police 2 measure skid marks, this was on a 30mph road, long long skid marks, police did nothing about it even though the evidense was there

as i wasnt hurt they didnt care, because of that i lost the £600 car as insurance didnt wana know without police sayin he was speeding
 
  182>FRS>VX220 now 350Z


Hey people, im new but i had to get in on this for my first post :)

Since i got caught speeding on an empty motorway at 3am i cannot afford to be caught again (was doing over a ton and got banned- yes im an idiot)...therefore i am now what the government would probably call the perfect driver as i obey all the speed limits!

However, what they dont factor into the whole speed cameras reducing accidents issue is that i have now more or less become a speedo watcher! Im consistantly looking down to see what speed im going (super paranoid about getting caught), consequently i may of become a worse driver! imo.

Consider this, speed cameras are supposedly placed in accident blackspots, near camera sights they put the camera warning signs...therefore would it be fair to assume that i am now paying more attention to my speedo, in fear of losing my licence than i am concentrating on the dangerous, accident prone road!

Speed cameras are not the answer! Something along the lines of a big ass sign saying blackspot ahead! drive too fast and you my kill someone! would do a better job (not a concievable solution but you get the point)!

..Crap, ive jibbered on for long enough. Hope i made sense, doubt many cud be arsed to read all that but hey just my 2ps worth!
 


Quote: Originally posted by FN04 XZE on 22 July 2004

They did catch Ian Huntley - and they ARE doing their job - If they didnt have to spend time catching people speeding then theyd be out doing other things! Im not saying I never speed but you get what you ask for - I know that if im going over the speed limited, its my problem if I get a fine, not theirs!
I cant believe you made a comparison between speeding motorists and Ian Huntley!! ... and this:


If they didnt have to spend time catching people speeding then theyd be out doing other things!
[/QUOTE]
... is almost as bad! :confused:
 
  E55, KitCar & '85 Quattro


I feel sorry for people whove been caught doing 100 and get banned, because I, and Im sure many other people on here, have done well in excess of 100mph on a lonely motorway (and sometimes not so lonely single track road :confused:)! Weve all done stupid things too, but it only hits home when someone gets banned or you get points.

Try http://www.speedcam.co.ukwww.speedcam.co.uk very interesting site.
 


without wanting to sound a dick, putting a valver in the hands of a "just passed" 17 yr old is a recipe for speeding tickets.

ive only been passed a few months, only got a 1.2, if i had a valver i prolly wudda had 6 points by now.

prolly still in your, just passed honeymoon period and your gunna ragg the tits off yer car just cos you can, so... just be a lil more vigilant in future, youll be ok, just think how much u dont wanna lose ur lisence
 
  2004 1.2 Dynamique


Quote: Originally posted by craig182 on 23 July 2004


Quote: Originally posted by FN04 XZE on 22 July 2004

They did catch Ian Huntley - and they ARE doing their job - If they didnt have to spend time catching people speeding then theyd be out doing other things! Im not saying I never speed but you get what you ask for - I know that if im going over the speed limited, its my problem if I get a fine, not theirs!
I cant believe you made a comparison between speeding motorists and Ian Huntley!! ... and this:


If they didnt have to spend time catching people speeding then theyd be out doing other things!
... is almost as bad! :confused:


[/QUOTE]Obviously they didnt do there job right because 2 10 year old girls got killed,
 


Quote: Originally posted by JoelDee on 23 July 2004


Quote: Originally posted by craig182 on 23 July 2004


Quote: Originally posted by FN04 XZE on 22 July 2004

They did catch Ian Huntley - and they ARE doing their job - If they didnt have to spend time catching people speeding then theyd be out doing other things! Im not saying I never speed but you get what you ask for - I know that if im going over the speed limited, its my problem if I get a fine, not theirs!
I cant believe you made a comparison between speeding motorists and Ian Huntley!! ... and this:


If they didnt have to spend time catching people speeding then theyd be out doing other things!
... is almost as bad! :confused:
Obviously they didnt do there job right because 2 10 year old girls got killed,

[/QUOTE]
Clearly because they were too busy having to spend time catching speeding motorists! FFS!!
 


If you are never going to speed anywhere ever why buy a hot-hatch?

You will never go over 70mph in this country or on the twisties never over 60mph.
Also where I live especially the lorries and buses are restricted to 50mph - so on the 60mph limit were I to stick to it there would be no chance to overtake without a major risk.
 


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