A CURE FOR UNDERSTEER?

[nufc182cup]

This might be silly but a friend suggested putting r888's or similar on the front of my car and leaving the rear as normal, would this be possible and would it make my clio more tail happy rather than struggling for grip and understeering?

 

[JackJack]

Lol don't do that.

 

[MartinR]

oh no !! lol slap you're mate he knows nothing

 

[nufc182cup]

to be fair thats what i said and wanted to do to him but was pretty sure!!!

 

[Scrooge]

Adjustable rear ARB

 

[tom172cup]

Pump rear tires up to 83.7 psi DK here you come

 

[edde]

Brake more before the bend.

More camber

 

[Emma.]

Adjustable rear ARB

This

 

[Nick172Cup]

Pretty much the first bit the edde says, other than that drive 'smarter'...

 

[MonkeyKnifeFight]

When i added camber bolts the front end grip was hugely improved but was coupled with a shorter tyre life. I never experienced understeer with camber bolts installed.

 

[M@tt_182]

Your obviously cornering too quickly, the Clio's handle great as a standard car! If you want to impove it a whiteline ARB would help. You can also get camber bolts for the front for slight adjustments.

 

[MonkeyKnifeFight]

What tyres are you running?

 

[James28]

Whiteline ARB seems to be the popular choice on here to help this.

 

[mitch1503]

better tyres possibly other than that get a arb

 

[dmallett]

Tyres are often over looked, I know they are the weak point in my setup.

And Rear arb makes a massive difference!

 

[Daniel]

What tyres are you running?

I can't believe it took 12 replies for someone to ask the most important question!

 

[Gaz.]

Seeing as you can chuck them around obscenely, you're either going too fast, using too much throttle, or have s**t tyres.

 

[Fred@BTM]

start with something that costs you nothing - tyre pressure, everyone always overlooks it

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

If the first thing is perfect / as good as can be, move on:

Checklist:
1. Moderate > good tyres (no ditch finders, bald or 10 yr old premium rubber).
2. Correct tyre pressures.
3. Geometry.
4. Driving lessons.

 

[Gman]

I can't believe it took 12 replies for someone to ask the most important question!

This ^^^^

With half decent tyres in good condition understeer really isn't an issue for road driving. If you're experiencing the understeer on track then there are lots of different routes to take.

 

[Will.]

Put your foot on the go pedal harder.

 

[chris_p]

I'll be the first to be a tosser then: I take it you're a regular track day goer then?

 

[Matt W]

Buy a MX-5.

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Buy a MX-5.

Awaits "If I put R888s on the rear of my car and budgets on the front..." thread.

 

[Goodj]

moar handbrake?

 

[aucky]

This

That


And tyres choice/pressure.
And not chucking it round roundabouts in cold damp weather.

 

[nufc182cup]

Funny, I asked a straight forward question and get a bunch of tools "trying" to be funny! Thanks to the guys who offered a proper opinion and advice but as a new member of the site its a shame that a few bad apples spoil every forum like this one

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Welcome to the Internet dude.

Does your car actually understeer ? Tragic hedge-magnet style the whole time or just when 'pushing on' ?

 

[nufc182cup]

No actually you're right, it doesnt understeer...my mistake

 

[Jamie_182]

Funny, I asked a straight forward question and get a bunch of tools "trying" to be funny! Thanks to the guys who offered a proper opinion and advice but as a new member of the site its a shame that a few bad apples spoil every forum like this one

you will get much better advice pal if you explain the situation more. from what you said people are under the impression that your car is suffering from understeer? so they are asking whether you have budget tires or good quality ones

and you havent said whether this is on the road or track. if its the latter then there are plenty of people on CS who track their cars and would be more than willing to give you advice.

 

[aucky]

Useful responses require useful info.

Current setup, track or road, etc etc

 

[M4D M4X]

Seeing as you can chuck them around obscenely, you're either going too fast, using too much throttle, or have s**t tyres.

+1

 

[nufc182cup]

The car has p zero neros all round, the car is used on the track

 

[Sam@NP]

When is the understeer occurring? On turn in? Mid corner? exit? etc.

 

[nufc182cup]

Mid corner to exit, it turns in well but wont stay in tight, thats why I asked about r888

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

No actually you're right, it doesnt understeer...my mistake

Now who's trying to be funny :S

Still isn't me.

 

[Emma.]

Check tyre pressures. I run mine around 28psi when hot using a048's.

An arb made a huge difference around the track. Car is much less lairy at the back.

This time of year I would also guess the track is going to be slightly damp/greasy which isn't going to help either.

Mid corner to exit, it turns in well but wont stay in tight, thats why I asked about r888

Too much power to early.

 

[Gally]

The car has p zero neros all round, the car is used on the track

So now we're getting somewhere. Didn't take long...

 

[nufc182cup]

Maybe I'm expecting too much from a clio compared to my old car, front wheel vs rear wheel

 

[M4D M4X]

How are you steering?
Trying to steer like a wild manner throwing it around or using it gently as in racing line and smoothness?

P zero's are a hard compound tyre so takes abit to get heat into them IMO