A little advice needed about degreasing and buying parts...

[The Fatty]

Hi everyone,

Iv just stripped my old engine (D7F engine) to bits as it was broken. Before putting it back together id like to make everything look as clean/new as possible, which is the best product to use to make this happen?

Also the problem with the engine was the big end bearing shells, completely worn! Where do you go about buying bearing shells?

Thanks in advance, TF.

 

[Mark One]

good man for stripping the engine, hope it was educational.
The best way to get parts really clean is with a good degreaser and one of those specialist vibrating baths. iirc there are some other specialist chemical cleaners too. Not sure about sandblasting, it wouldnt be suitable everywhere.
Sure someone else will have a better suggestion.

 

[172Ben]

My mate soaked his bottom end in vinegar. Came out spotless after a few days of soaking.

When i did mine, i used petrol and a stiff brush

 

[greg182]

majority of us just use a parts cleaning tank which is just a solvent de greaser works a treat and you can clean any thing with it!!i clean out turbo boost pipes with it all the time and the cars dont take off lol so it wont do any harm

 

[The Fatty]

My mate soaked his bottom end in vinegar. Came out spotless after a few days of soaking.

When i did mine, i used petrol and a stiff brush

Are you joking about the vinegar?! lol

Thanks for the replys relating to the degreasing, any brand names to look out for?

still need to find out where to get the bearing shells? Is renualt the only place that *may* sell them? or maybe the shells are only made in certain sizes?

Im not in a major rush for this stuff as i already replaced the engine about a year ago (or more); just fancied seeing what a piston looked like really lol and thought i might as well fix the old engine at the same time...

 

[greg182]

has the worn shells worn the crank??if so u may have to have the crank ground slightly and oversized shells possiby but dont quote me on that as depends on the extent of the damage to the crank

 

[172Ben]

Nope. Some pics to show

After being left overnight

 

[The Fatty]

lol thats amazing, im going to put a small part in vineger now to see what it looks like 2moz, and then i might have to go shopping! lol

just out of interest, what made him try this?!

 

[Mark One]

^^ it get's rid of rust a treat too.

It's really violent stuff. It's made me think twice about putting it on chips again.

Cheaper the better BTW

 

[The Fatty]

ok iv put some small bits in the vineger (the bits that hold the crank shaft in place), i'll post some pic's 2mos to show how they turned out! The vineger im using was pretty cheap iirc... Its a good thing i like the smell of vineger lol.

BTW iv already used gunk on all the parts and put the whole engine through the dishwasher (but that didnt take off everything), so its only the real old/hard stuff thats left on the parts now.

 

[Mark One]

i wouldnt say an overnight will have that much impact. Leave it till mid-week.

 

[The Fatty]

okie dokie

 

[mattjk]

^^ why did he put all the empty bottles in his "parts washer" for? Or am i missing something here lol?

 

[sideways danny]

^^ why did he put all the empty bottles in his "parts washer" for? Or am i missing something here lol?

to raise the level of the liquid so more is submerged

 

[Mark One]

^^ why did he put all the empty bottles in his "parts washer" for? Or am i missing something here lol?

cummon mate. Obvious ^^

:rasp:

Archimedes would be turning in his grave

 

[madmike1]

an ultra sonic parts cleaner is good for this type of thing and its safe to put almost anything inncould be expensive though

 

[172Ben]

an ultra sonic parts cleaner is good for this type of thing and its safe to put almost anything inncould be expensive though

Make one urself Cheaper

 

[172Ben]

http://users.eastlink.ca/~pspencer/nsaeta/electrolysis.html

Follow this and make your own

Works a treat

 

[Mark One]

http://users.eastlink.ca/~pspencer/nsaeta/electrolysis.html

Follow this and make your own

Works a treat

says it pits aluminium :S

I'd take my chances with the vinegar:star:

 

[172Ben]

Tis good to use on certain things that.

But Vinegar is awesome

 

[The Fatty]

Ok Point8, its mid-week, and heres the results of the vineger test:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I3iHT3xybSk

Iv made it a video as i think it shows the results better

 

[172Ben]

Was actually me that posted the pics

 

[SBV116]

My mate soaked his bottom end in vinegar. Came out spotless after a few days of soaking.

When i did mine, i used petrol and a stiff brush

Surely that stung his ring.................:quiet:

 

[172Ben]

LOL, he wouldnt mind!

Im gutted my name wasnt mentioned in the video, when i posted the pictures Grrrrrrrrr

 

[The Fatty]

Was actually me that posted the pics

oops! my bad! Sorry 172Ben! I must have been half asleep this morning! Big thanks to you 172Ben!!!!

Thankyou thankyou thankyou!

not sure why i thought it was Point8 that posted the pics :s lol.

 

[Fred@BTM]

Ok Point8, its mid-week, and heres the results of the vineger test:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I3iHT3xybSk

Iv made it a video as i think it shows the results better

blue peter presenter

 

[The Fatty]

I have changed the name of the video on youtube and pointed out in the description that its 172Ben and not Point8 that posted the pictures! Sorry again 172Ben! :S i must be going mad!

 

[172Ben]

Lol no worries mate. Its a good video, just shows you how much it removes!

 

[How15]

i used brake cleaner on much of my focus engine i recently rebuilt, but yea, 2 second an earlier post, you need to discover why the shells were worn, and wether thats damaged the crank, if your rebuilding to keep it'd be worth getting it fitted and correctly balanced. mine wasn't worth it, i bought a new engine from a scrappy FTL
good luck m8!

 

[The Fatty]

i used brake cleaner on much of my focus engine i recently rebuilt, but yea, 2 second an earlier post, you need to discover why the shells were worn, and wether thats damaged the crank, if your rebuilding to keep it'd be worth getting it fitted and correctly balanced. mine wasn't worth it, i bought a new engine from a scrappy FTL
good luck m8!

Its worn because it ran out of oil :S , i originally thought it was because the pick up pipe had broken off but its ok, i guess the iol sensor wasnt working at the time. Im going to post some really large pics of the crank later to show how worn it is... maybe someone will be able to tell me ifits worn beyond repair? The engine still ran when it broke, but it made a very loud clatering sound and had very little power (max speed i could go was like 40mph).