^^ What more do you need to know other then they use momentary switches?! The overall workings of the unit are irrelevant from there on in as you just keep all the internals and just replace the membrane type switches with normal panel mounted ones. The hardest part is making it all neat and aesthetically pleasing.
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Red, black anything that looks good and fits a flush as possible. I don't mind paying for quality either.
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Post? I'm in Kent chap! Near Maidstone to be precise - you anywhere near?
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Still, you're definitely going along the right lines. Circular bezel would be required though!
like this without the 18mm of course http://www.rapidonline.com/Electron...-mounting-push-switches/71435/kw/panel+switch
I can keep going all night!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-x-Push-Butt...3|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-x-Push-Butt...3|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
My trusty lil 182 :)
^^hmm like the look of those. wonder how much the button would stick out?
Could you use sparco horn rings otherwise like this
http://www.demon-tweeks.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=SSW15NE981
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sparco-Horn-B...3|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
expensive but saves drilling the wheel..
Could you use sparco horn rings otherwise like this
http://www.demon-tweeks.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=SSW15NE981
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sparco-Horn-B...3|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
expensive but saves drilling the wheel..
My trusty lil 182 :)
On the same track as richy's otherwise but these are even tinier
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5-x-Micro-min...3|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5-x-Micro-min...3|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
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I don't think depth will be much of a problem, there's plenty of room behind, but I'm keen to keep everything as flush as possible, in a similar way to the horn buttons already on the wheel.
The metal part to be drilled is approximately 4mm thick. I want to use a low profile switch with a bezel to hide any signs of the drill work, as I have a feeling that it will be difficult to match the finish of the wheel afterwards.
The horn buttons have an outside diameter of approx. 18mm and I really want something considerably smaller than this for the CC functions.
The search for the perfect switch continues...
Pics of area behind the wheel:
The metal part to be drilled is approximately 4mm thick. I want to use a low profile switch with a bezel to hide any signs of the drill work, as I have a feeling that it will be difficult to match the finish of the wheel afterwards.
The horn buttons have an outside diameter of approx. 18mm and I really want something considerably smaller than this for the CC functions.
The search for the perfect switch continues...
Pics of area behind the wheel:
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Basically, I want this with a round bezel!
http://www.rapidonline.com/Electron...hes/Low-profile-push-switches/30972/kw/switch
http://www.rapidonline.com/Electron...hes/Low-profile-push-switches/30972/kw/switch
My trusty lil 182 :)
EDIT: In response to richy's depth q!
Was a bit cautious of that too but certainly on mine (sparco wheel, omp boss) the boss is a good 7-8cm deep and nothing to foul on. The back of the button would mount right next to the boss and keep it really neat and plenty of depth.
Was a bit cautious of that too but certainly on mine (sparco wheel, omp boss) the boss is a good 7-8cm deep and nothing to foul on. The back of the button would mount right next to the boss and keep it really neat and plenty of depth.
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Shame about the size 
http://www.rapidonline.com/Electron...Push-Button-Switches/SPST-Push-switches/71430
http://www.rapidonline.com/Electron...Push-Button-Switches/SPST-Push-switches/71430
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Best I've found - the recessed ones just over half way down the page.
http://www.watsons-streetworks.com/switches.html
Unfortunately they're in the states and they don't do internet ordering!
http://www.watsons-streetworks.com/switches.html
Unfortunately they're in the states and they don't do internet ordering!
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Going for the 15mm ones here...
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=LMA733
Will post up when they arrive.
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=LMA733
Will post up when they arrive.
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WoW! what an amazing thread! so interesting for those with cruise.
I've never tested a car in my life, or driven one with a steering wheel like these. So sorry if this sounds so n00b, but are they good for normal day time fun driving? Or just for track days?
Ok and this might sound really weird also (this is what night-shifts do to my head) but has anyone had a head on crash with a steering wheel like this in a clio? It's just i had one in my astra and i was so glad i had an air bag! (i was doing 40mph they were doing about 30mph, blind bend). :S
So i've never looked at this mod, especially not because i would loose the cruise. However after reading this thread, got me thinking outside the box a little and i thought........well racing cars have them, so it must be for a reason, and there's some serious crashes in racing and i've seen them wave their hands out the window after, to show they are all ok. So i suppose no air bag aint gonna mean your going to die, what do some of you think about this?
I know what i'm hoping people are going to say, but lets see
Inferno, good luck with this wicked project! Looks like there is such great support on this forum! I hope you get the buttons looking mint on the wheel
I've never tested a car in my life, or driven one with a steering wheel like these. So sorry if this sounds so n00b, but are they good for normal day time fun driving? Or just for track days?
Ok and this might sound really weird also (this is what night-shifts do to my head) but has anyone had a head on crash with a steering wheel like this in a clio? It's just i had one in my astra and i was so glad i had an air bag! (i was doing 40mph they were doing about 30mph, blind bend). :S
So i've never looked at this mod, especially not because i would loose the cruise. However after reading this thread, got me thinking outside the box a little and i thought........well racing cars have them, so it must be for a reason, and there's some serious crashes in racing and i've seen them wave their hands out the window after, to show they are all ok. So i suppose no air bag aint gonna mean your going to die, what do some of you think about this?
I know what i'm hoping people are going to say, but lets see
Inferno, good luck with this wicked project! Looks like there is such great support on this forum! I hope you get the buttons looking mint on the wheel
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WoW! what an amazing thread! so interesting for those with cruise.
I've never tested a car in my life, or driven one with a steering wheel like these. So sorry if this sounds so n00b, but are they good for normal day time fun driving? Or just for track days?
Ok and this might sound really weird also (this is what night-shifts do to my head) but has anyone had a head on crash with a steering wheel like this in a clio? It's just i had one in my astra and i was so glad i had an air bag! (i was doing 40mph they were doing about 30mph, blind bend). :S
So i've never looked at this mod, especially not because i would loose the cruise. However after reading this thread, got me thinking outside the box a little and i thought........well racing cars have them, so it must be for a reason, and there's some serious crashes in racing and i've seen them wave their hands out the window after, to show they are all ok. So i suppose no air bag aint gonna mean your going to die, what do some of you think about this?
I know what i'm hoping people are going to say, but lets see
Inferno, good luck with this wicked project! Looks like there is such great support on this forum! I hope you get the buttons looking mint on the wheel
They are great, they add another level of fun to the car & allow for faster steering with the smaller sizes, The feedback is also improved once you remove the boat size standard one, the reason the airbag is not so relevant in race cars is mainly due to the harness's, with harness's it shouldnt be possible for you to even get near the steering wheel
Nothing wrong with running a car without a bag IMO either with or without harness' 10 years ago we were all happily driving about in cars that had, no side impact bars, no 4/5 star ncap ratings, no airbags that generally folded up like a wet cardboard box in an accident. Modern cars are vastly superior in an accident even without an airbag fitted.
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Well, they've arrived - unfortunately I'm not going to get a chance to do anything this weekend, or probably next weekend!
I had a quick mock up of how one might look on the wheel and checked that the holes required aren't too big for the wheel...
Still not 100% happy with the overall size - I would prefer a slightly smaller bezel on them, but the actual button size is spot on. As it is though, I don't think I'm going to find much smaller, and they did say 'motorsport' on the packets, so they must be good for another 5-10bhp each.
More to come later.
I had a quick mock up of how one might look on the wheel and checked that the holes required aren't too big for the wheel...
Still not 100% happy with the overall size - I would prefer a slightly smaller bezel on them, but the actual button size is spot on. As it is though, I don't think I'm going to find much smaller, and they did say 'motorsport' on the packets, so they must be good for another 5-10bhp each.
More to come later.
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No, but randomly you've just given me a great idea of where to look for some smaller ones! Google image is great! And thank you!
No, but randomly you've just given me a great idea of where to look for some smaller ones! Google image is great! And thank you!
Erm... You're welcome yeah :rasp::star:
In fact you should just fit that wheel to your car, it's awesome!
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on a side note what model wheel is that you have fitted to your car? want!
Cheers! It's a Momo model 80.
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