Alpine Headunit + Stalks 182 Issue?? (With Pics)

[MDP91]

Hello,

Well ive finally made the jump from my 1.2 to a 182 and I'm loving it! I have an Alpine CDE-9880R headunit. In my Clio 1.2 I used to have it wired up into the stalk controls with my ipod in the glovebox. It work perfectly.

Anyway, before I sold it I took the alphine out will all of the wiring needed to re-install into my 182. So today ive come round to getting it fitted, it all works fine but the stalks don't work? It all looks exactly the same! The only thing I can see that may be different is the pin arrangement on a yellow (female) connector to its male part? If anyone has any idea on how I can get my stalks working with the 182 that would be great.

Pics to help:

Wires from 1.2 and the adapter unit end:

182:

Female yellow:

Male part:

And how it 'should' be connected, this is how it looked on my 1.2 and it work fine (photo from 182):

I know the stalks work and I also know that the headunit and adapters all work so I'm scratching my head over what is different? :S

 

[Tom]

Other pictures don't work for me.

 

[MDP91]

Other pictures don't work for me.

Which ones mate?

 

[Tom]

From memory (however i used the official alpine stalk and display adapter) the yellow plug plugged directly into the stalk adapter itself and not the main HU loom

Also 182's after a certain year use a different setup so be wary of that.

 

[MDP91]

Hmmm okay, its just on my old the Clio, the yellow plug plugged into the stalk adapter loom which connects the headunit, which is what Ive tried, I'm a little unsure on what you mean?

 

[Tom]

I don't know what adaptor you have so i cant really help.

 

[MDP91]

I don't know what adaptor you have so i cant really help.

Okay, I'll get some pics up of the adapter tomorrow.

 

[robbygraham]

i tried this when i moved from a 1.2 to a 182 and the stalk adapter that worked in my 1.2 wasn't compatible, where it plugs into the back of the screen was different, and supposedly I had to buy a £90 adapter (if this is true or not, i have no idea) I just run without them, would like them to work but not worth £90

 

[MT AUDIO]

If you had a 1.2 prior to 04/05 and the 182 is 05 then it wont be compatible. You have an update list unit fitted to your 182 as standard yes? Stalks arent £90 but they arent as cheap as the tuner list as its a can bus system. They come in at £40.

 

[Jon.G]

Nice upgrade mate!

 

[Goodj]

MT Knows.

At least you just want the stalks working!.

@MT: Aside from "dodgy connections", what may casue my stalks to only work occasionally, when the display always works? It was all the same cable so it doesn't make sense.

 

[MDP91]

Well my 1.2 was a 51 plate, the 182 is a 05, I spoke to a guy at Halfrauds shhhh and he said I need a new adapter (about £30) and it has to be run in via the back on the clocks?

 

[MDP91]

Nice upgrade mate!

Cheers mate, will be making an 'official' post tomorrow

 

[Tom]

I used a KCE-940b and KWE-942 on my 182 (2004). However that may not work.

Cost £60 for both (you need them both, and the display works). I doubt they are cheaper or more expensive now.

 

[MT AUDIO]

What brand of stereo is it? Some units there are different patch leads for different models and some just wont respond properly.
The stalk itself may have a loose connection, a specific button, or all of them, if its a specific button itll need to be either taken apart or changed over, if its the whole unit you may have the connector to the stalk not contacting properly. Did I supply it?

 

[MT AUDIO]

Well my 1.2 was a 51 plate, the 182 is a 05, I spoke to a guy at Halfrauds shhhh and he said I need a new adapter (about £30) and it has to be run in via the back on the clocks?

Talk to someone who knows what they are talking about

no dash removal stalks > dash removal versions everytime!

@ Tom tuner list only bud so wont be compatible with his

 

[Tom]

Yeah i figured as much, did they update the 940B?

 

[sbridgey]

Cheers mate, will be making an 'official' post tomorrow

Spotted your old one for sale and noticed your avatar earlier, very jealous!

 

[Goodj]

What brand of stereo is it? Some units there are different patch leads for different models and some just wont respond properly.
The stalk itself may have a loose connection, a specific button, or all of them, if its a specific button itll need to be either taken apart or changed over, if its the whole unit you may have the connector to the stalk not contacting properly. Did I supply it?

Hi.

Proper alpine leads my man, supplied and fitted by an Alpine authorised (Cambridge Car Audio).

Either none of the buttons work or they all do, so could well be a stalk-connection problem. I might try pulling the leads apart one day to be sure there's nothing juuuust hanging in there

 

[MT AUDIO]

Yeah i figured as much, did they update the 940B?

the 940B was never replaced, just stopped making it which is pretty crap, all the new range are APF-S1***

 

[Tom]

What is the 940B-R3?

 

[Goodj]

What is the 940B-R3?

Sounds like some JDM-only Subaru to me

 

[MDP91]

Okay well I shall get some more pics up tomorrow and I'll get back to this one.

 

[MT AUDIO]

What is the 940B-R3?

No clue bud as they are all d/c lines on the kwe range

 

[MDP91]

As promised, ive got some better photos today:

 

[Goodj]

Same head unit I use.

But used the display & stalk lead, seems a simple enough fit, but then it was ordered for the car it went into.

Reckon it could be a tuner/update list incompatability issue. MT will know

 

[MDP91]

Same head unit I use.

But used the display & stalk lead, seems a simple enough fit, but then it was ordered for the car it went into.

Reckon it could be a tuner/update list incompatability issue. MT will know

I don't understand what you mean

 

[Goodj]

If the new car had a different headunit to your old one (one had "tuner list", the other an "update list")

Then the leads you already have wont work.

 

[MDP91]

Mine standard headunit is an 'Update List'.....that any use?

 

[MT AUDIO]

as I said it wont work, you need a different adapter

 

[MT AUDIO]

What is the 940B-R3?

Checked this out of curiosity and is a revised version- ie v3 so obviously some refinements made

 

[MDP91]

as I said it wont work, you need a different adapter

Thank you, could you point me in the right direction of the correct one?

 

[MT AUDIO]

Yhpm

 

[MDP91]

Thank you, I shall buy one soon. Thanks for the help MT.

 

[MT AUDIO]

NP