AMAX (APEX?) 40mm springs £30 from ECP

[DannyR]

Instead of posting smart arse comments and you have some sort of actual experience with these on track then why not just help us out? It was me who posted I'd heard good things about them on track due to there stiffness compared to other springs on the market, if not so good then let the people know, or do you think people waisting hard earned cash "hilarious"?

FLOL, I was using Apex on my first Clio on track ten years ago! That long ago that I don't have the pictures on my iPad to show you how shocking they are when in a corner. I then used them on a runaround a few years after and they were still as bad.

Cooksports or eibachs only for track use, or standard, or coilovers, but you know, not the hilariously cheap ones like K-tec

 

[DannyR]

Find some pictures, notice how flat the bumper is on comparison to the floor on each, same car same corner, slightly different angle

Apex

Coilovers

 

[Mr Plums]

Were you going the same speed? The first pic you look mid bend, the last pic you look to be coming out of the bend, you cant really prove all of this from a picture.

I reckon the bottom pic are the apex springs.

 

[chris-foci]

I've got Sportlines at the mo on Koni shocks purely for track use, they seem a bit soft and give a bit too much body roll than I'd like.

Will Apex springs be better from people in the know or have used both on track?

Not bothered about how they are on the road.

 

[bloke]

£7.50 each pretty much says it all:laughing:

 

[DannyR]

Were you going the same speed? The first pic you look mid bend, the last pic you look to be coming out of the bend, you cant really prove all of this from a picture.

I reckon the bottom pic are the apex springs.

It's a slightly different point but best pictures I had.

 

[JB21]

Still not fitted mine as I cant get the friggin front top mount nuts off, how are you guys who have getting on with them? @coverman @cs_dave @j4mes-c

 

[Jimbob 2705]

Still not fitted mine as I cant get the friggin front top mount nuts off

Know anyone with an impact gun? Keep the wheels down on the floor and it should be easy enough

Or if you don't I reckon with a breaker bar you should be able to get them off

 

[JB21]

Know anyone with an impact gun? Keep the wheels down on the floor and it should be easy enough

Or if you don't I reckon with a breaker bar you should be able to get them off

The struts just spin mate, tried a drop head spanner with allen key but no chance. Will take it the garage and get them to loosen them with a impact gun.

 

[leeds2592]

Or go to a friendly garage and get them to gun them off then screw them back on tight but not so tight you can't get them off.

 

[cs_dave]

Still not fitted mine as I cant get the friggin front top mount nuts off, how are you guys who have getting on with them? @coverman @cs_dave @j4mes-c

Ive got the rears on aint got around to swaping over from the coilovers yet lol

 

[Chiffs]

Did my top mounts with a gun from my local garage and did them as tight as I could when refitting and zapped the last bit back at the garage with the gun again.

 

[MrBlonde]

I have cooksports on mine at the mo & im the same i like them but want my car lower,can't afford coilovers at the mo

 

[cs_dave]

Just bought a cup with gen apex springs if anyones intrested in them as ill still use the amax now ive got them

 

[LJColeman]

Just ordered these as needed some cheap springs due to 2 being snapped on my standard 172. Hopefully not to bad. Got to be worth a punt for the price


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[Ads29]

Well I bit the bullet and got a set, just fitted the fronts and they're definetely lower than my eibachs lol. This is how mine sits, only dropped onto wheels so haven't taken it out yet, brand new cup shocks too and pms top mounts

And a side by side with the eibachs

I've got a trackday on the 9th September at Llandow so we'll see just how good/bad they are

 

[flebay]

Well I bit the bullet and got a set, just fitted the fronts and they're definetely lower than my eibachs lol. This is how mine sits, only dropped onto wheels so haven't taken it out yet, brand new cup shocks too and pms top mountsView attachment 163484

And a side by side with the eibachs
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I've got a trackday on the 9th September at Llandow so we'll see just how good/bad they are

They look like a fixed rate spring to me i would think it will be harsh on the road.

 

[Ads29]

It probably will be harsh on road, but that's something I can't comment on as mines no longer road legal and gets trailered everywhere

 

[flebay]

It probably will be harsh on road, but that's something I can't comment on as mines no longer road legal and gets trailered everywhere

If i had track only then i would go for the backbreakers 100%

 

[JB21]

Mine will be going on next weekend along with new cup dampers all-round, then hunter aligned with as much negative camber as possible as -2.5° just isn't enough as i still scrubbed the outsides of my fronts at Oulton.

 

[Ads29]

That's pretty much how mine is, had new cup rear dampers earlier this year. As soon as I've finished rewiring and moving the battery it's off for wheel alignment and negative camber then load up and hopefully enjoy

 

[imprezaworks]

How are you getting that much camber on standard dampers? Mine is going Tomo and I reckon they will max out at 1.5 which is fine. Just curious

 

[JB21]

How are you getting that much camber on standard dampers? Mine is going Tomo and I reckon they will max out at 1.5 which is fine. Just curious

Just camber bolts mate, hopefully lowering it will gain a bit more.

 

[MrBlonde]

Anyone got any side profile photos of these springs fitted against cooksports,eibach etc??.
I have cooksports at the mo but would like it to be a bit lower & cant afford coilovers at the moment.

 

[Chris_Beer]

My mate chucked a set on his dCi as the original shocks and springs were shot

This is after a couple of years, seems to be sitting a bit lower now...

 

[MrBlonde]

Anyone with H&R springs with photos on cup shocks?

 

[imprezaworks]

I have some pics of mine if that helps, can take side on ones tomo

 

[MrBlonde]

Yeah please mate that would be good,are yours on cup shocks or is your clio a cup?,hows the ride to

@imprezaworks

 

[imprezaworks]

Mines a 182ff mate. Ride is spot on.

Carl @bloke who drives many a Clio says how well my car drives. Which I take from him as a compliment

 

[MrBlonde]

So may sit a bit different as bit heavier,have you any photos at the moment?.i have cooksports on at the mo,just want it lower.Do you think they sit lower than them?

 

[imprezaworks]

Two secs

 

[imprezaworks]

Righty.

My old inferno with cooksports, Toby @realnumber 1 owns this gem of a car

An old cup which I'm sure at the time had apex springs, in fact it did as I took the coilovers off

My rb with different offset wheels on with H&r springs

 

[imprezaworks]

I would say looking at those pics the rear seems slightly higher than cooksports, front seems lower.

But like they say 'face down ass up'

Or for car terms 'rake'

 

[MrBlonde]

The apex ones dont look to great on the cup.
How mine sits at the mo...

 

[Ads29]

A max on front and eibach pro on the rear, light was fading fast and haven't got round to taking any tonight after swapping rear springs

Hasn't been driven just taken off axle stands and sat on its wheels, brand new cup shocks too

 

[MrBlonde]

Looks like you have smaller wheels tho mate & cant see that well,do some side profile pics when all done.

 

[PP200t]

I fitted gmax which are probably very similar to my 172, that looked awesome and drove pretty well. Handled nicely but I never took it on track.

God I miss that car!!!!

 

[JB21]

Finally fitted mine, coupled with new OE dampers. Just took it for a blast and they feel fine, not crashy at all and feels much flatter in the bends. Good drop as well. Before and after below, albeit the before isn't side on but you can see the gap difference, they'll drop further as well over time. Well impressed for £30.

 

[imprezaworks]

Looking good

 

[Craig]

Not bad for £30. Might buy some myself.