Anyone know anything about this car ??

[Maz]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RENAULT-SPORT...DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item200051426393

Needs some work doing I know but just wondered if anyone knew who's it was or its history .. not got the reg sorry

Any hlep would be great

 

[Neil G]

Don't know anything about the history but looks like a serious bit of kit

 

[Maz]

I was hoping that a suspension upgrade, remove the gash stickers, side strips and change the CAF and it would be sweet as..

Just thought I would ask if anyone knew anything about it though before I jump in head first

 

[Neil G]

Yeah...those stickers are pretty bad aren't they lol

Spec looks good though...must have costed a fair bit to put together. I'd also be interested in finding out where all the engine work has been done.

 

[Maz]

Yeah I have asked where the engine work was carried out, im just waiting for him to get back to me

 

[Rich]

I am sure there was post on here before discussing that car?

 

[Maz]

Any idea where please Rich ??

 

[Maz]

There has been no actual engine work on the car it has had electrical work as in an ECU which was all done by GMC motorsport, the reg of car is W982 KCU.

Anyone know anything about the above company and where I could find out the cars history from the reg please ??

 

[Giles]

buying it??

pm me about the 172

 

[edde]

Any idea where please Rich ??

You posted it Maz. It was in some topic you started about a track car wanted I couldn't find the original post I think Giles quoted your post though.

I wouldn't buy it Gaz suspension for a starter.

Thats not a racer Cup cage. Infact whey have they not used the connecitng bar on the cage for the harness? Why use that stupid rear clip?

Why does it have a brake bias valve its got abs so no need or point.

How about thiese
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?p=1&s=121
Thats Mondeo is stunning £8k would be a quick car make it road legal and it would be a right laught.

Or the 205 here
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?p=1&s=119
Or the Porche on page 2 looks nice.
Or the AE86 and you'd have load of people chatting to you about it wanting a driv/ride.
Or the orange Metro 1.8 you can buy them with mot and tax for £4k or so there a place which builds and sells them as new there quite impressive. (page 3)

 

[Adamhodg]

Dont mean to put a downer on this or anything but its been for sale for months on ebay.

 

[Maz]

Any idea where please Rich ??

You posted it Maz. It was in some topic you started about a track car wanted I couldn't find the original post I think Giles quoted your post though.

I wouldn't buy it Gaz suspension for a starter.

Thats not a racer Cup cage. Infact whey have they not used the connecitng bar on the cage for the harness? Why use that stupid rear clip?

Why does it have abrake bias valve its got abs so no need or point.

No Rich is right someone posted this in ebay section a while ago, so it has been for sale for a while as Adam said

Gaz suspension can be changed for a couple of hundered quid, can you explain a little more about the cage and bias valve as I havn't got a clue

 

[edde]

There has been no actual engine work on the car it has had electrical work as in an ECU which was all done by GMC motorsport, the reg of car is W982 KCU.

Anyone know anything about the above company and where I could find out the cars history from the reg please ??

GMC do the supercharger kis for Saxo's
http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/

 

[edde]

Gaz suspension can be changed for a couple of hundered quid, can you explain a little more about the cage and bias valve as I havn't got a clue

The cage isn't a full race cage the proper ones are a maze of pipes I'm trying to find a picture.

The brake Bias valves is so you can adjust the pressure the rear brakes get on track you can adjust your braking for more or less rear end which will affect the car when braking. Nun ABS cars (172 cup excepted) have brake bias type things on the rear axle so the rear don't brake as hard when the backs loaded up a brake bias on a race car etc is an internally adjustable cabin one.

What about a normal phase 1 172 or a Cup ideal for track days and a few k cheaper than your car.

 

[Maz]

Cheers for that Edde, why would he say thats what the cage is when it isn't ??

What should I ask him about the bias valves, why do you think he has fitted them ??

I want a track ready car + a daily drive which selling my car will pay for

 

[Maz]

Anyone ??

 

[Fred@BTM]

thats is a genuine Cup Racer cage

i have a feeling yoz knows something about that car, he knows the previous owner i think

looks good, but loose the shitty GAZ and fit Bilsteins

 

[aaronc]

Not a cup car, does it have any camber? Adjusted caster? and 55,000? no thanks!

Cup cage should look something like this i believe;

 

[Maz]

^^ what you mean camber and caster ?? whats up with 55k its to throw around a track

thats is a genuine Cup Racer cage

i have a feeling yoz knows something about that car, he knows the previous owner i think

looks good, but loose the s**tty GAZ and fit Bilsteins

Tired to contact Yoz but he must be busy .. it ends at 1pm tomorrow so need to move fast

Suspension would be uprated

 

[aaronc]

Sorry I thought it had been a track car all its life...

It looks ok but does need a closer inspection, Maz have you looked around at any other exCup cars for sale?

 

[edde]

Cheers for that Edde, why would he say thats what the cage is when it isn't ??

What should I ask him about the bias valves, why do you think he has fitted them ??

I want a track ready car + a daily drive which selling my car will pay for

I'm not sure doesn't look like a proper Cup racer cage to me. Cup cages have loads of metal. I'll have another loook for a picture.

No idea why its fitted best ask the owner.

Buy a decient track day car and a cheap second hand car for ifyou have trouble with the track car. Cars get a hmerring on track days so get good one.

 

[Maz]

^^ the track car is an addition to my daily drive not coming out of the money from my car sale..

Not sure why he would say its a cup cage if it isn't .. not that I know what one looks like ..

So are you saying he has fitted the valves in addition to the ones that were already there ??

 

[Maz]

Sorry I thought it had been a track car all its life...

It looks ok but does need a closer inspection, Maz have you looked around at any other exCup cars for sale?

Not looking to spend more than £5k

 

[Giles]

Maz

Why don't you buy a normal mk1 172 and take some the interior out.
They are getting cheap now or it up to you but I'm getting one soon

 

[Maz]

The price seems really cheep for the kit he is selling I reckon I could get a decent deal all in if I deal outside of ebay, that includes transporter, extra wheel and slicks ..

aaronc .. seriously if you were looking for somthing to throw round a track would you buy this ??

 

[Giles]

I would say yes but if you happy with it.

But are you going to use it on the roads?

 

[Maz]

No Giles its not road legal

 

[Giles]

ok

have you look on Auto Trader of mk1 172??

 

[Maz]

Yes Giles, I am looking for something track ready not a 172 for daily driving or to plough money into stripping it out, putting a cage, buckets harnesses in etc

 

[Giles]

ok cool, go for it if you want that car

 

[edde]

How about this
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/109124.htm

Faster and a more fun track car arguable.

 

[Giles]

^^are you on msn edde??

 

[Maz]

How about this
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/109124.htm

Faster and a more fun track car arguable.

Cheers Edde but don't want a soft top

 

[edde]

^^are you on msn edde??

Nope going to go on a second (should have gone 10 minutes ago) just waiting for a download to finish.

Maz definatly get a RWD kit car for track days there lighter for a start a 172 with tralier is say 1.3 tones at best (900kg for the car if realy stripped out no cage plus 400 for a light trailer) more likly your looking 1 tone for the car with a cage and 600kg for a trailer at best since most drivers licences won't ley you drive and tow more than 3.5 tones gross weight and the trailer has to weight less than the curbe weight of the car you migh end up with a proble,. try find a 1.3 ton car which can take 3 tones easily. You have to account for the fact say 1 passenger so that 200KG in people weight a spare set of tyres tools etc thats 100kg easy so thats
1.5 tones of car
1.5 tones of trailer
300kg of extras

Hum only 200KG of max weight you ideal want a car much heavier than the trailer a 172 isn't light for starters.

I used my parents Suburu for towing my clio a few time and its annoying to deal with the extra weight etc also fuel economy isn't great so long drives are a pain.

 

[Fred@BTM]

that is 100% a cup racer roll cage, the pics arronc posted are not of a cup racer! (its a clio, but thats an enduro clio racer, rally spec cage)

R-sport do 2 different cages

cup racer = 1000euro
rally = 2500 euro (the one in the pic by arronc is this)

trust me on this!


the car Maz is loking at is a converted road car, it was NEVER a cup racer, just to clarify!

 

[Maz]

Edde are you saying that I will not be able to tow this car on the transporter because its not legal ?? :S I am very confused now !!

 

[Fred@BTM]

^^are you on msn edde??

Nope going to go on a second (should have gone 10 minutes ago) just waiting for a download to finish.

Maz definatly get a RWD kit car for track days there lighter for a start a 172 with tralier is say 1.3 tones at best (900kg for the car if realy stripped out no cage plus 400 for a light trailer) more likly your looking 1 tone for the car with a cage and 600kg for a trailer at best since most drivers licences won't ley you drive and tow more than 3.5 tones gross weight and the trailer has to weight less than the curbe weight of the car you migh end up with a proble,. try find a 1.3 ton car which can take 3 tones easily. You have to account for the fact say 1 passenger so that 200KG in people weight a spare set of tyres tools etc thats 100kg easy so thats
1.5 tones of car
1.5 tones of trailer
300kg of extras

Hum only 200KG of max weight you ideal want a car much heavier than the trailer a 172 isn't light for starters.

I used my parents Suburu for towing my clio a few time and its annoying to deal with the extra weight etc also fuel economy isn't great so long drives are a pain.

:S


erm maz, buy whatever, and tow it with whatever!

 

[Maz]

TBH I didn't know there were legalities about towing etc, it will be towed on a 2.4L V6 VW, do you think that will be a problem ??

I guess by posting this thread I was looking for advice as to if I should go ahead and buy this car or should continue looking.

 

[GaryS]

There is a maximum weight you can tow which depends on the car doing the towing. It should be in the car's handbook if you've got it. There is also a limit on the amount the trailor itself can carry which depends whether it's braked/unbraked.

 

[GaryS]

By the way, if you passed your driving test after 1st Jan 1997 I think you have to do an additional test to tow stuff over 750kg.