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anyone running an LSD on a 172/182?



  Lionel Richie
tested the quaife and gripper, gripper is better IMO, but TBH if you're sub 220bhp you don't "NEED" one
 
  ITB'd MK1
once you're at high power (boosted) the difference is very noticable. the standard diff becomes a liability IMO. Dont think it's a problem at all for nearly every NA clio
 
  Lionel Richie
not so sure, depends if you're (as his lordship clarkson would say, hamfisted behind the wheel)

if you can pedal the car well enough then you'll be alright, k-tec when they were testing the quaife unit with cira 300bhp did a 1min 26.something round donnington on R888's, we managed a 1min 27.something with no diff and a dodgy engine (225bhp) with no PAS plus having to short shift to 4th past the microphone to meet 98db and on road tyres

not saying sean the driver (IIRC) was hamfisted of the k-tec car, far from it, but with the diff, it made not a lot of difference in my eyes, i've found similar in my own testing
 
  ITB'd MK1
you just disagreed, then agreed in one statement :s

without a quaife I recon the turbo 172/182 is verging on dangerous, it's still a massive handful even with one, whereas the stock diff is quite capable with an NA clio
 
  Lionel Richie
yeah i kinda did, but point being, 2 decent drivers, 70bhp difference, road tyres V track tyres, stock diff V quaife diff and only 1 sec difference?
 

Martin_172

ClioSport Club Member
only running around 190bhp but looking at getting ITB's later this year. had a shot of a civic with an LSD yesterday and was very impressed with the pull out low speed bends you just mash the throttle and go!
 

Martin_172

ClioSport Club Member
does it feel any different to drive day to day or are they much the same?

how about fitting, ive never taken a gearbox apart before but ive changed a few on a clio! so getting it off and on isnt a problem its just the actual fitting of the diff?

do the standard driveshafts fit ok?
 
  C63 AMG, F430 & 172
I had a avanti diff (£1300 maxi) on my last clio and it was epic (we were quicker round bedford than a cup racer - private owner but he could drive)

It was awsome just pulled hard out of every bend!

For the gripper you have to shorten a driveshaft by 12mm, they are very hard to get the old diff out btw
 

Martin_172

ClioSport Club Member
might consider an avanti then if they are worth the extra, so any place that rebuilds gearboxes will be fine for fitting? shaft need shortened with an avanti too?
 

Martin_172

ClioSport Club Member
ill look at getting some quotes, really fancy one now before i get more power, roads were a bit damp couple of weeks back and my mates civic was pulling on me no problem in the corners and this wasnt even hard driving just quick driving thru some bends
 
  RS RIP
The Quaife differential ; does this mean more gearbox modifications or is it a straight fit without any costs of different shafts etc. ?

price has gone down a LITTLEon these.. and i'm very annoyed by wheelspin coming out of curves etc / torquesteer
 
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  C63 AMG, F430 & 172
quiafe uses stock shafts, no extra mods needed.

But quiafe is a ATB diff, not a proper plate style diff.
 
  RS RIP
quiafe uses stock shafts, no extra mods needed.

But quiafe is a ATB diff, not a proper plate style diff.


sorry , i just know that one of these stops the wheel that's lifted from spinning and shifts the power to the wheel with traction..

What does an ATB diff do compared to the plate differential ?
 
I had a avanti diff (£1300 maxi) on my last clio and it was epic (we were quicker round bedford than a cup racer - private owner but he could drive)

It was awsome just pulled hard out of every bend!

For the gripper you have to shorten a driveshaft by 12mm, they are very hard to get the old diff out btw

The bit about being quicker than a cup racer.............how?
 
sorry , i just know that one of these stops the wheel that's lifted from spinning and shifts the power to the wheel with traction..

What does an ATB diff do compared to the plate differential ?

With an ATB, if you lift a wheel it will act like an open diff.
 


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