Ast top mounts.

[Djw Dave]

I searched this, but needing advice. I see that they need to be either spec'd to the coilover unit or machined to allow fitment.

I got these on a car and have now transfered them onto my flamer. I was never sure if all was "right" on the car they came off of. Now im sure they arn't!

I have a large black ring that sits on the top of the spring fine and a black bearing and two orange parts. Im sure thats all fitted fine. But on trying to tighten the nut the collar is to tight against the nut, meaning the nut snags on the collar. I've got a few pics.

I hope you can see where its hitting. Also as you can see it did have pure motorsport ones previously fitted by these were not included in the sale of the car.

Also i need to understand how to use them. I have set the 3 bolts point away from the engine, would that give it poss or neg camber?? All in all im a little confused with them. First time into solid top mounts and i probably should have bought new, with instructions.

But hoping cs can save the day (again!).

Dave

 

[Stefan.]

i would of just gone for the pure motorsport seeing as all the works been done for you, sorry i cant help :quiet:

 

[MarcB]

I bought a spanking new set from AST direct.
I was asked if they where for standard suspension or coilovers.

I expalined to the guy that they where for a trophy and he said that he had a set there and 5 days later i had a set on my door step.
They came in a box with an invoice and no instructions. Mine are still sitting in the box in the cupboard as like you dave i have no idea how to work them or set them up.

 

[Djw Dave]

i would of just gone for the pure motorsport seeing as all the works been done for you, sorry i cant help :quiet:

As i say they were on my other 172, so was looking to use them rather than buy more pure motorsport ones.

I bought a spanking new set from AST direct.
I was asked if they where for standard suspension or coilovers.

I expalined to the guy that they where for a trophy and he said that he had a set there and 5 days later i had a set on my door step.
They came in a box with an invoice and no instructions. Mine are still sitting in the box in the cupboard as like you dave i have no idea how to work them or set them up.

Pain in the hoop. But im sure i'll manage to sort it. With a little help.

 

[Djw John]

If anyone wants some ast mounts then do let us know, Im happy to sell these on and for Dave to get the pure ones since the holes are there, we're just too skint to be buying them just now

 

[Djw Dave]

Im also not sure how the pure ones will worl with the Fk coilovers. I think i would need some more bits to allow all to play ball.

 

[Cupman29]

You have set it just now to maximum negative camber with standard caster.

You would be better getting them set up professionally as they are epic if done correctly.

They either come for coilovers or dampers. Doesn't matter which type of coilover.

 

[Djw Dave]

Great. what about the other positions?

It will have a full geo set up once everythings on and set up. Looking at the marking would you say that these are set up for standard dampners rather than coilovers due to the nut touching the side and being hard to tighten them up?

 

[Djw Dave]

The pure motorsport ones i removed were fitted to a set of standard cup shocks, so didnt look like i could get them to fit the Fk's.

There also looked like a part missing from the pure ones that might be important.

On the bottom right of the pic there is a collar that should be fitted in between the mount and the standard top spring cup. That wasnt fitted to the cup shocks/pure top mounts.

http://www.pure-motorsport.co.uk/details.php?itemid=143

 

[dmallett]

Look in my progress thread, there should be a picture of how they are on mine if not if its dry tonight ill take some

Nice to meet you two the other day!

 

[dmallett]

Oh and I run mine so the bolts are at the front, drives lovely!

 

[Cupman29]

Oh and I run mine so the bolts are at the front, drives lovely!

You have gone for max caster with no camber. Camber can be added through camber bolts or as on my KW's they have camber adjustment on them anyway.

Seriously though, don't just copy someone and say their's is at the 6 o'clock position so that will do. Get them set up professionally!

 

[dmallett]

Spax allow camber through slots, my geometry was set up properly until recently.

Its now set using my phone and a spirit level app. I got the tracking checked and it was 2minutes out on one side.

Impressive I think

 

[Silent_Scone]

Mine were setup for maximum camber on bilsteins. Car felt absolutely brilliant. I need to set them up again since as its been fcked around with. Does make a huge difference.

 

[Djw Dave]

Once i've managed to get everything fitted up it will be sent away for a set up.

I think ill need to take a picture of everything i have and see if i can mate everything up to work.

 

[Djw Dave]

Look in my progress thread, there should be a picture of how they are on mine if not if its dry tonight ill take some

Nice to meet you two the other day!

Was nice meeting you too dude. Gave me some ideas and motiovation to get started on mines. So you're pretty much getting the blame for me fitting these top mounts (badly)!!

 

[yeecup]

The pure motorsport ones i removed were fitted to a set of standard cup shocks, so didnt look like i could get them to fit the Fk's.

There also looked like a part missing from the pure ones that might be important.

On the bottom right of the pic there is a collar that should be fitted in between the mount and the standard top spring cup. That wasnt fitted to the cup shocks/pure top mounts.

http://www.pure-motorsport.co.uk/details.php?itemid=143

Hi dave, I presume these were my pure top mounts. They didn't come with those collers and I got them new from pure, not sure if they changed the design or something but swr didn't have any issues when they fitted them. Ps hope your enjoying the car.

 

[Djw John]

Cool cheers for that Jamie