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Bent the flamer!



Car slipped off the handbrake on Friday outside my GF's house, and rolled down the hill into a flat bed truck..

Check out the results:

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Taken it to mate yesterday who thinks he can beat out the rear 1/4, which is a relief.. Just need to find a bootlid now.. See my other Flamer identification thread!

Cheers
Ben
 
You're right Iain - could have been a lot worse! Luckily it's only bent one quarter, and as the impact was quite high I think the boot floor isn't damaged and there's no damage to the chassis. Bumper seems to be fine too.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Jeez! Quite a funny dent on the tailgate, a nice new swage line.

I'd be worried about the job done if he plans on repairing that part of the quarter.

The access to that part is terrible. It's not a part i'd entertain repairing.
 
  albi 197
Unlucky :( Next time, wack it in gear before you get out. Force of habit for myself after I had a similar incident.
 
  AMV8, Mk1 Golf
Unlucky :(

my vx220 roled down a hill into the back of my exs car, lucky for me, not so lucky for him :(
 
  Saab 93 Aero Wagon
Jeez! Quite a funny dent on the tailgate, a nice new swage line.

I'd be worried about the job done if he plans on repairing that part of the quarter.

The access to that part is terrible. It's not a part i'd entertain repairing.

Agreed. Thats going to be one hell of a repair to try and do well.

Should really have a new quarter, but if you don't find a panel full of filler.....
 
Jeez! Quite a funny dent on the tailgate, a nice new swage line.

I'd be worried about the job done if he plans on repairing that part of the quarter.

The access to that part is terrible. It's not a part i'd entertain repairing.

So you think I'd be better off with a new quarter? What sort of price would you be talking for that sort or repair (just ballpark figure)..


Unlucky :( Next time, wack it in gear before you get out. Force of habit for myself after I had a similar incident.

I always do.. Unfortunately I didn't park it.. :(
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
I can understand that as a private repair you might try and repair it but jeez that won't be pretty, even to get the shape back in that tail lamp panel will be a mare not to mention the kink on the quarter.

After looking at the pics that ain't gona happen to any level of decent standard mate where it's been hit is just not repairable to any decent standard.

£800+ Off the top of my head.
 
  Saab 93 Aero Wagon
Easily £800.

Remove all the rear quarter mouldings and glass (glass specialist charge), cut off the quarter, align and weld into position a new rear quarter, align and fit new tailgate, beat out and reshape O/s/r lamp panel, then paint the tailgate, paint the inner lamp panel, paint the quarter and blend the O/s door so the door needs dismantling.

Then there are the parts....
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Lols renault parts! £500 for the tailgate and quarter.

Even get a second tailgate and get a new quarter fitted, nobody like invasive surgery like that on a car but it's just where it's been hit. Unlucky is the word.

I know insurance is the last resort but sometimes it's needed.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Roughly 250 each Ollie for both parts. Can't remember the exact price.

Renault price their parts like a prestige brand!
 
  Jagggg...missing the 182!
if you find a real good tinsmith, that quarter would repair near perfect, just a small amount of filler. trouble is finding one, bodyshops are trained to replace panels and repaint, not repair most of the time.

wouldnt be a quick job to repair, but cheaper than 800 or so.

might be an idea to ask around for dent repair, the likes of chips away etc wouldnt do it, or any local sheet metal workshops, the sort that hand fabricate panels.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Good point about the tin smith, I would also say, highly equiped garages will have very good pulling tools to bring that back out but I would know until I seen it in person and it's finding a decent garage these days.

It seems to be harder and harder from what i've seen.
 
  Saab 93 Aero Wagon
Good point about the tin smith, I would also say, highly equiped garages will have very good pulling tools to bring that back out but I would know until I seen it in person and it's finding a decent garage these days.

It seems to be harder and harder from what i've seen.

Its something we would be able to do for sure but the labour and time involved would usually outstrip the cost of putting in a new quarter.

Definitely needs jacking out and then alot of tender loving panel beating.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Pmsl! A lot!

What kind of labour rate are you working with Ollie?
 
  Saab 93 Aero Wagon
Our rate per hour is £38 on most makes.

It goes up for the likes of Lotus and Aston accordingly.

To pull out and make GOOD a repair like that i.e not have a panel full of filler that will no doubt bridge in a year or so, you'd end up with so much panel work that it would make more sense to bung a quarter in it.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Yeah I like repair versus replace but in the case of cheaper cars it's not worth the hassle for making an extra hours labour.
 
I've had one guy reckon he can get it out without a new quarter, I've seen his previous work on a friends Merc and it was spot on.

Off to see another friend of a friend today who usually works on more exotic cars so will be interesting to get his opinion too.. Will let you know what he thinks.
 
  Clio 182ff
argh bum snitches!

sorry to see that matey, however if you have not actually been to the nurbergring then that is called karma hehe.
 
  Saab 93 Aero Wagon
What's a bridge when you're talking about filler Ollie?

Bridging is what occurs when there is such a build up of materials i.e filler, basecoat, lacquer, that its starts to crack.

Usually what happens on poorly repaired (filled with filler) panels.
 
  Clio 172 Cup
Decent panel beater should be able to get that pretty straight, i had pretty bad damage to my rear quarter and i opted for repair over replacement.

Trouble is with a new rear quarter you need to make sure its properly rust proofed after....
 


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