how much do you rekon a decent low milege (5K) 1300cc hayabusa engine would cost? and how much would i get for my engine 2.0 16v 172bhp (9K). Also how much would it cost to fit a turbo too the bike engine and what bhp would i be looking at then? would this be faster than the standard 172 given its light weight 4cyl ? would this be cheaper to do than fitting/purchasing £6000 ktec turbo ? im thinking it would.. but would the performance gains be simular?
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how much do you rekon a decent low milege (5K) 1300cc hayabusa engine would cost? and how much would i get for my engine 2.0 16v 172bhp (9K). Also how much would it cost to fit a turbo too the bike engine and what bhp would i be looking at then? would this be faster than the standard 172 given its light weight 4cyl ? would this be cheaper to do than fitting/purchasing £6000 ktec turbo ? im thinking it would.. but would the performance gains be simular?
erm i wouldnt do bike engine as i doubt the clutch and box will stay very long in a car that weighs as much as the 172. how you gonna drive it chain drive ??? prop ?? would have to go to rear wheels dont think there is gearbox for a bike engine that would take drive shafts. busa engine is about 1400 turbo about 2.5-3 i think your looking at about 300bhp and some torque but not sure how much. you could talk to z cars they do bike engines in stuff but tbh i doubt you could do it
thanx... just that the ktec turbo is too expensive.. so nxt car just like anyone else whos into engine performance will have to be a turbo and that means no clio
.. although at the mo i really like the cute/mean look of my 172 and thats enough for the mo...((i wanna 4wd twin turbo bike engined clio
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Tom
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Quote: Originally posted by cliotuRS on 25 March 2004
thanx... just that the ktec turbo is too expensive.. so nxt car just like anyone else whos into engine performance will have to be a turbo and that means no clio
and a bike engined 172 would be cheap?
Anything is possible!
there is a hayabusa engined 205 RWD rally car. it sounds great. If I remember correctly, it cost close to 100k.
Youd need a lot of fiberglass panelling etc. to keep the weight down.
the easiest option would probably be to have it rear mounted, as they do in autograss racing.
A decent 1400 (bored out) hayabusa engine can give up to 210BHP, but not a great deal of torque.
A standard engine only produces about 110 ft/lb of torque.
bike engines do not produce enough torque to shift a clio. they are high reving beasties (this is how they get thir power) and could only be used in light weight vehicle eg kit cars, minis, and reliant robins!!
as has been said the gearbox wont last. for a start u will have twice the traction (2 driving wheels instead of 1), not to mention the extra mass ur trying to shift.
do u have the faciliities to space frame a vehicle? do u know how to? cos questions like "i asked the question cos i didnt really know if it was possible at all??" make me wonder.....
youd need a spaceframe and fiberglass or maybe carbon panels.
If you couldnt do all this yourself, youd be looking at serious money to get someone to build you one.
There are probably better transplant options out there though.
It could be possible to get it as FWD, there is a FWD hayabusa mini (old mini). that does sprints and hill climbs.
Oh, and it DEFINITELY would NOT be cheaper than a 6 grand KTEC turbo!
But it IS possible.
Here is a fast Mk2 Escort with Turbo Bike engine:
http://www.situne.no/index.php?id=101http://www.situne.no/index.php?id=101
Video: http://www.situne.no/movies/EscortRR-test-20MB.avihttp://www.situne.no/movies/EscortRR-test-20MB.avi
http://www.situne.no/images/large/10063.jpg
Im currently in the midst of converting my 1760 X-flow XR2 to busa power.
Its not hard, just costly, firstly you need the engine, which are now expensive as fook due to demand from kit cars etc. So 2.5 K will get you one.
Then fitting takes fabricating mounts which again sint hard. You mount it transversely like in the bike, use chain drive to a transfer box which costs 800 quid or so, then get some driveshafts made up to fit the hub and the transfer box.
Then you complete the basics of cooling, fueling, electronics etc etc.
Cost about 4k or s getting the engine in, turboing a busa engine after a 1600cc bore and stroke will cost about 4k again.
So ultimately its more expensive, less reliable, harder to drive etc etc.
I there are a few companies (America normaly) who sell turbo motorbike kits Ive been looking at them at work for the past few days ironically.
A 172 engine is about £750 I would guess and the box another £250 (low estimates).
You may be best using the 172 box and make a cltch linake with adjusted 172 gears or a motorbike reduction kit (about 30% reduction is speed should be fine) lowering the resvs from the engienwill help with the lack of torque but if your turboing it then youll get the torque back anyway.
The potential for the motobike engine is better than the 172 (there are some 600+hp hyabushis out there anyway) although they cost a fair wack (about 2 V6 CLios worth). For a good selection of kits ect try here. http://www.totalkaosperformance.com/http://www.totalkaosperformance.com/ kit availiable for upto 575hp I think
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