Bilstein B14's or SPAX RSX?

Arran_182 · Mar 15, 2011

hi good people,

looking at spending circa £700 next month on some coilies. Both seem to be in that price range. Any idea what the SPAX are like? or should I just go with the B14's

mikekean · Mar 16, 2011

Just go with the Bilsteins. Cant go wrong with Bilstein, probably last allot longer the the SPAX units too.

jack_kemp · Mar 16, 2011

No idea what the spax are like. But I love bilstein's.... Would get my money no question.

Fletcher · Mar 16, 2011

I'd go for the Bilsteins TBH.

scottiebhoy · Mar 16, 2011

Defo be better off with bilsteins!

Gaz_ · Mar 16, 2011

Billies, I've had them and rate them massively. Build is good. Iirc eddie on here had some Spax Coiloves on his non RS and said they knocked.

JackJack · Mar 16, 2011

Bilstein B14s if it was me.

ch!ppen · Mar 16, 2011

I've tried neither. But Spax tend to be mediocre average stuff. Bilstein are up there with the best and are world renowned for making good suspension, thus if i had that budget i'd be going for the Billies.

sideways danny · Mar 16, 2011

Bilstein shocks are used by h&r, which knock within a few months.

maynard · Mar 16, 2011

Only one winner here. Bilstein.

Nick172Cup · Mar 16, 2011

FK Konigsports, use Koni shocks alround also. Been great on track for me, can give you lots of 'lows' and are fully adjustable which you cant do with the others.

Oh and there the best part of a £100 cheaper!

Arran_182 · Mar 17, 2011

thanks for the feedback fellas, may look into the FK's.

Nick172Cup · Mar 17, 2011

As said run them on my trackcar as well as Ollie82. and Jamesstone on there clios, never failed/broken/leaked and they did mega miles in them. Depends on what you'll be using them for though really...

Fred@BTM · Mar 18, 2011

sideways danny said:
Bilstein shocks are used by h&r, which knock within a few months.

shut the f**k up! Why do Prodrive, Aston, Lambo, Maseratti, Mazda, Subaru, Mitsbishi etc use them? You'll be telling me next Pi springs and V-maxx coilovers are "wicked" - behave Danny

there's members on here that have ran H&R's for 5years now without a rebuild (nurburgring boys) - try that with your v-maxx

Bilstein - one of the best suspensions IN THE WORLD

sideways danny · Mar 18, 2011

well the number that i see which knock, and the number of people that tell me they wish they'd listened to me tells a different story

Ricardos · Mar 18, 2011

Nick172Cup said:
FK Konigsports, use Koni shocks alround also. Been great on track for me, can give you lots of 'lows' and are fully adjustable which you cant do with the others.

Oh and there the best part of a £100 cheaper!

So with the FK coilover kit you can adjust both ride height and the damper stiffness too? Koni do make a coilover kit but for every model of Clio bar the Sport

Nick172Cup · Mar 18, 2011

Ricardos said:
So with the FK coilover kit you can adjust both ride height and the damper stiffness too? Koni do make a coilover kit but for every model of Clio bar the Sport

Indeed, just Koni shocks used on the Fk, everything else is Fk obviously. Used for a good 5 hard trackdays so far with not one problem with them whatsoever.

Damo_Sport · Mar 18, 2011

Fred@BTM said:
shut the f**k up! Why do Prodrive, Aston, Lambo, Maseratti, Mazda, Subaru, Mitsbishi etc use them? You'll be telling me next Pi springs and V-maxx coilovers are "wicked" - behave Danny

there's members on here that have ran H&R's for 5years now without a rebuild (nurburgring boys) - try that with your v-maxx

Bilstein - one of the best suspensions IN THE WORLD

1+ REason why my next coilover buy is from bilsteins

Kam. · Mar 18, 2011

Bilstein are one of the only suspension manufacturers I never really get customers having problems with. FK and Spax certainly have more issues.

Dave. · Mar 18, 2011

If only they made them in 60mm I'm struggling big time

mattsouthall · Mar 18, 2011

do the bilsteins have adjustable damping? do I need adjustable damping?! I will be using the car primarily on track.

Who supplies the bilsteins for top dowwah that aren't 'tards?

Gaz_ · Mar 18, 2011

Not adjustable. Debatable really, i used them on the road and they were spot on imo

Look on kam racings website

maynard · Mar 18, 2011

mattsouthall said:
do the bilsteins have adjustable damping? do I need adjustable damping?! I will be using the car primarily on track.

Who supplies the bilsteins for top dowwah that aren't 'tards?

Kam Racing.

Sir_Dave · Mar 18, 2011

sideways danny said:
Bilstein shocks are used by h&r, which knock within a few months.

Im sorry, but having used Bilsteins & H&R's on nearly all my cars for years, id have to disagree.

If they did Trophy fitment, the Sachs would be going.

Kam. · Mar 18, 2011

maynard said:
Kam Racing.

yay i'm not a tard

Kam. · Mar 18, 2011

mattsouthall said:
do the bilsteins have adjustable damping? do I need adjustable damping?! I will be using the car primarily on track.

Who supplies the bilsteins for top dowwah that aren't 'tards?

The bilsteins cannot be adjusted manually. But the good news is they have fancy internals. The valving has a relatively high damping rate for low velocity inputs and a low flow restriction for high velocity inputs. This will give a firm ride with reduced impact from harsh bumps.

mattsouthall · Mar 18, 2011

Kam Racing said:
The bilsteins cannot be adjusted manually. But the good news is they have fancy internals. The valving has a relatively high damping rate for low velocity inputs and a low flow restriction for high velocity inputs. This will give a firm ride with reduced impact from harsh bumps.

nice one, will be in touch to order

Silent_Scone · Mar 18, 2011

Just had my set refurbed as they were tatty. No knocking though, bloody brilliant on the road tbh no need for damping adjustments.

jack_kemp · Mar 19, 2011

Bilstein's are the motha fuckin' don.

That is all.

Arran_182 · Mar 20, 2011

sounds like I have found the answer to my question.

been in touch with Kam racing a couple of times now and the guy I dealt with was really helpfull spoke on the phone for a few min and answerd all my questions, plus their only 30 min away

. Will be getting a set after pay day. Happy days

cliogek · May 8, 2011

I wrote to Kam Racing and several other shop, but i still don't know how low you can go with Billies B14 on the Clio B?!

Bistein says:
20-25mm.
KamRacing says:
They will go lower, but they didn't tell me how low.

Who can help me? I like to buy the Bilstein but not when they lower the car only 25mm.

Fred@BTM · May 8, 2011

they do go lower, 20-25mm is only what's allowed for the TUV German test, they'll go down 40-60mm no problem

Gouldy · May 8, 2011

I thought they went down 60 front - 60 rear?

Gaz_ · May 8, 2011

Who cares? They go low enough . Slam any car too much and you might aswell stick some gaz on there. 30/40Mm is enough

cliogek · May 8, 2011

Thanks for the information!
For me 40mm is enough.
The Billies are the coilovers for me, that's for shure!!

Let ship them to the Netherlands!

Gouldy · May 8, 2011

gaz-kev said:
Who cares? They go low enough . Slam any car too much and you might aswell stick some gaz on there. 30/40Mm is enough

No it's not

bozothenutter · May 9, 2011

cliogek said:
Thanks for the information!
For me 40mm is enough.
The Billies are the coilovers for me, that's for shure!!

Let ship them to the Netherlands!

congrats!
I haven't got the car yet, but am doing the research aswell, an d think i'm slowly circling towards the bilsteins aswell(probably one trackday a year or so...) laat me even weten waar je de beste prijs kan vinden....

Kam. · May 9, 2011

Fred@BTM said:
they do go lower, 20-25mm is only what's allowed for the TUV German test, they'll go down 40-60mm no problem

For suspension to pass TUV it cannot scrape or scrub tyres on bodywork etc. They only officially advertise a height with an element of leeway to protect themselves.
Every german coilover kit will go lower than the official paperwork. Whether you want to is another matter but some people don't like a good quality ride...

Kam. · May 9, 2011

cliogek said:
I wrote to Kam Racing and several other shop, but i still don't know how low you can go with Billies B14 on the Clio B?!

Bistein says:
20-25mm.
KamRacing says:
They will go lower, but they didn't tell me how low.

Who can help me? I like to buy the Bilstein but not when they lower the car only 25mm.

But we have the height on our website which you had read already, hense why you emailed in the first place...

cliogek · May 9, 2011

Kam Racing said:
But we have the height on our website which you had read already, hense why you emailed in the first place...

Before i pay 795 Euro exclusive shipping costs, i want to be sure. It's not 7,95 Euro.
Ik think it's not a bad habit to ask things twice to be 100% sure?
The one says this and the other says that.

@bozothenutter...bij Kam Racing is de set te koop voor 703 Engelse ponden. Heb ze nog niet goedkoper gevonden.
Mogelijk met een groepsaankoop?

KamRacing.....what's your price by 2-3-4 Bistein sets? Still 703 pounds?

Bilstein B14's or SPAX RSX?

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