Bilstien b14 or spax rsx

[Waltz172]

Ordered some earlier but PayPal hasn't taken the money yet. Hope the exchange rate doesn't go up!! Lol

what did this work out in ££?

 

[Pauleds]

499 delivered

 

[Waltz172]

Yea I think that's why I paid
With PayPal fees it worked out at about 515

 

[masekwm]

Is it worth going for Bilstein B14 & PMS top mounts for the odd trackday, fast road use. Car isn't used as a daily

 

[imprezaworks]

Used mine again at Oulton, absolutely no complaints

 

[masekwm]

Used mine again at Oulton, absolutely no complaints

Do you use them with solid top mounts?

 

[imprezaworks]

Not at the moment but that's something I'm looking into

 

[Cub.]

@masekwm I'm currently running them with the PMS kit. Works nicely as a package, and I'd recommend them.

 

[imprezaworks]

Did you fit the kit after the coilovers or as a package?. If the former what improvement did you find?

 

[Cub.]

Did you fit the kit after the coilovers or as a package?. If the former what improvement did you find?

Afterwards bud. Improvements;

- sharper steering
- reduced play and "tighter feel".
- less flex

Although, that is with the brace in addition to the top mounts. Downsides

- harsher ride

In truth, the benefits are only slightly noticeable on the billies. The stiffer you go with everything geo wise / car wise, the more noticeable the solid mounts / strut brace combo becomes.

For track and race cars, you want as little play in the geometry / suspension elements of the car as possible. Stiff be the order of the day

 

[imprezaworks]

Cool. I've no complaints with the way mine handles at the mo. But will be getting a few tweaks to help improve it.

 

[masekwm]

@masekwm I'm currently running them with the PMS kit. Works nicely as a package, and I'd recommend them.

I've currently got new cup shocks, top mounts & Cooksports that have done 1000 miles. Is the difference worth taking this all off?

 

[Cub.]

I've currently got new cup shocks, top mounts & Cooksports that have done 1000 miles. Is the difference worth taking this all off?

Probably not mate. When you go to coilovers (if you plan to), I'd do it then.

It's a great piece of kit, but the benefits are increased if everything else is "upgraded" or "tighter".

 

[masekwm]

Sorry @Cub. I meant is the difference that noticeable over the standard items to make it worth me selling the bits on there at the moment.
I'm sure the upgrade from standard shocks is worth it. Just 12 months ago, this was meant to be a cheap track/road car, now it's got a quaife and its turning into the moneypit my 205 did.

 

[Cub.]

@masekwm Decent coilovers, PMS top mounts and strut brace kit will be significantly better on track than springs. Good move with the diff. Best mod on mine to date IMO.

On road, depends how hard you push it on the road tbh man.

 

[masekwm]

If I go for the PMS top mounts and Bilsteins, do I need to retain anything from my current set up? I assume they are all swapped out. Thanks

 

[Cub.]

If I go for the PMS top mounts and Bilsteins, do I need to retain anything from my current set up? I assume they are all swapped out. Thanks

Nope. Will all be swapped. Except camber bolts. If you're running any. You need to keep those

 

[masekwm]

@Cub. Thanks for the help. I've just gone ahead and purchased them.

 

[masekwm]

So ordered last Tuesday, and they are now in the UK with Parcelforce. Total cost was £509, compared to PMS who sell for £720 + postage!

I'm fitting them to my recently purchased Renault top mounts rather than solids, with new wishbones and ARB bushes.

 

[Waltz172]

So ordered last Tuesday, and they are now in the UK with Parcelforce. Total cost was £509, compared to PMS who sell for £720 + postage!

I'm fitting them to my recently purchased Renault top mounts rather than solids, with new wishbones and ARB bushes.

Yea I've also gone with this set up, with bottom arms.
Where did you find the best place to buy the spacers for the top mounts,eBay? Or can the be found for less elsewhere

 

[imprezaworks]

A considerable saving that

 

[Pauleds]

Bargain, much cheapness!
Mine are now sat in the box in my garage until I get new topmounts and the new shell is ready to accept them.

 

[masekwm]

Yea I've also gone with this set up, with bottom arms.
Where did you find the best place to buy the spacers for the top mounts,eBay? Or can the be found for less elsewhere

I bought new top mounts & modified spacers from Renault last summer. The car has done 1k since so I'm just reusing them

 

[Waltz172]

Fitted these today, but sitting pretty high. I stuck to the height recommendations in the booklet they provide. How low did you guys go, especially on the rear, do you just wind the adjuster all the way to the top? The instructions say you should leave a 15mm min gap from the adjuster to the top part of the spring mount.
Any info guys?

 

[Mr R.]

My rear was set to the lowest which is fine for day to day driving even with a full tank of fuel.

I had very slight rubbing when i had my 2 kids in the back with a boot full of stuff.

004 by Scott Raven, on Flickr

009 by Scott Raven, on Flickr

 

[robmuns]

I've taken the adjuster ring out of the back and the rear is still pretty high tbh but mine is half stripped with no spare wheel

 

[dann2707]

Fitted these today, but sitting pretty high. I stuck to the height recommendations in the booklet they provide. How low did you guys go, especially on the rear, do you just wind the adjuster all the way to the top? The instructions say you should leave a 15mm min gap from the adjuster to the top part of the spring mount.
Any info guys?

The lowest is still too high imo. I've got mine wound all the way on the rear and it's still high. Going to be removing the adjuster soon when the new wheels are on I reckon.

 

[Waltz172]

taking the adjuster out is the way to go then. Cheers chaps.
How low do you go on the fronts?
I've not yet fitted camber bolts or spacers. I suppose going too low would put extra stress on the shock and other components though

 

[dann2707]

Be careful if you go too low. I've got camber bolts and 20mm spacers and it scrubbed on the bumper bracket. Had to do some careful smashing the f**k out of it with a hammer at a track day to sort it.

Doesn't rub now though.

 

[Waltz172]

Yea a bit of trial and error then I guess