Black brake disks that stay black?

[GabrielKnight]

Black diamond? Brembo Max? Others?
Are there any good brake disks that stay black after lots of use?

 

[Fred@BTM]

impossible

 

[DrR]

Random.

 

[GabrielKnight]

* Nominate as 'thread of the week'.

 

[Henry]

lol

 

[Tom]

Actually yes there are.

Sadly none exist for a clio.

 

[Henry]

carbon ceramic? aren't they a dull grey colour?

can't think of anything else; cast iron's obviously out!

 

[GabrielKnight]

So, if I've got black alloys and have a choice of bare metal discs or the same in black finish, which should I go for?

I'm trying to imagine what the disc would look like after the black has worn off (presumedly unevenly and only in certain places). Will it look more tatty than if I'd just gone for the bare metal in the first place?

 

[Henry]

after use, the friction surfaces of the disc will look no different had they started out coloured or uncoloured - either way, they'll end up with bare metal surfaces where the pads have worn the disc.

you can get discs that are coloured (black) on the non friction bearing surfaces but i don't know how well that coating withstands corrosion - i'd guess not very well as discs are very exposed and, due to the metals used in their construction, they rust readily.

 

[cat171]

What's wrong with normal brake discs ? :S

No one else has a problem with them. I don't get it

 

[.GAZ.]

normal brakes ftw lol

 

[Peperami]

Since when are brembo max black? :S

 

[GabrielKnight]

Since when are brembo max black? :S

Well, they look fairly dark on a laptop monitor:
http://www.brembo.com/ENG/AfterMarketBrakes/Products/ProductsBremboMAX.htm

 

[GabrielKnight]

What's wrong with normal brake discs ? :S

No one else has a problem with them. I don't get it

Aesthetics? Colour matching?

 

[.GAZ.]

Since when are brembo max black? :S

Well, they look fairly dark on a laptop monitor:
http://www.brembo.com/ENG/AfterMarketBrakes/Products/ProductsBremboMAX.htm

got a point lol..

they'r not like that in real life tho lol:S

 

[Peperami]

Nah they're a normal steel colour fella. Just not as shiny as some. Ive got some on at the moment, look like standard discs with a pattern on tbh.

To answer all of your brake threads in one, get either brembo max, or brembo hc's.

Hc's will look oem, max will offer slightly better fade resistance, at the cost of slightly faster pad wear.

 

[cat171]

What's wrong with normal brake discs ? :S

No one else has a problem with them. I don't get it

Aesthetics? Colour matching?

I'm sure that if silver brake discs are good enough for lambo owners etc they'll be good enough for your clio.

 

[GabrielKnight]

But lambos don'tusually have black wheels.

These are what I'm looking at getting:

http://www.nitrac.co.uk/performancedisc.htm

 

[Peperami]

My mates orange gallardo has dark anthracite wheels. Everyone looks at his silver discs and sighs, you do have a point.

Anyway, why do you want those discs?

 

[Fred@BTM]

if someone drags your face along the road at 90mph do you expect the skin to stay on?

 

[rs250nut]

if someone drags your face along the road at 90mph do you expect the skin to stay on?

Nicely put. My skin would stay on because it got a special coating of over spray at the moment

 

[Fred@BTM]

ok if i put my foot on your head and press hard?

 

[GabrielKnight]

Anyway, why do you want those discs?

I'm not sure, I just feel stangely attracted to the company.

They're very new
They seem like nice folks, having spoken to them on the phone
The cool factor of having brakes that have been cryogenically frozen
Massive potential sitcom confusion arising during discussions about 'frozen brakes'
Advertised 3x life (large pinch of salt needed)
Proven performance of similar products in the racing market.
They make the discs to order, in batches, specifically for your car.

Predominantly though I'm intrigued as how good they are, as there is very little info or reviews online so far (a few can be found with lots of searching, mostly good).

I like to get stuff that not many other people have got yet. What better item to casually test than some new-on-the-market brakes at 120mph?! :dead:

 

[rs250nut]

ok if i put my foot on your head and press hard?

That would do it

 

[cat171]

Stick with companies who've been doing it for years, they know where they're at.

 

[Peperami]

Sounds like a good list of reasons.

 

[mattjk]

Isnt a metal such as cobolt naturally blue? May be wrong. (other than being awfully expensive am i right?)

 

[GabrielKnight]

One thing I do need to make sure before I order the rear ones is that I have discs at the back, and not drums. Anyone know for sure? N reg 96 mk1 1.2L

 

[Peperami]

LOL! i thought these were going on a track car the way you asked so many questions!

How do you aim to do 120mph in a mk1 1.2 clio? :S

 

[GabrielKnight]

Got her to 113 once, with the wind behind me (jacket potato and beans for tea). Reckon 120 is achievable downhill! Glad you found my car so funny, thanks! :rasp:

 

[cat171]

One thing I do need to make sure before I order the rear ones is that I have discs at the back, and not drums. Anyone know for sure? N reg 96 mk1 1.2L

You will have drums at the rear, you do not need anything fancy at the rear at all, stock (standard) brakes will be totally fine.

 

[Day]

Will the front discs actually fit inside the rims?

 

[GabrielKnight]

One thing I do need to make sure before I order the rear ones is that I have discs at the back, and not drums. Anyone know for sure? N reg 96 mk1 1.2L

You will have drums at the rear.

100% sure? Sorry, but need confirmation from others too. Putting a big order in as soon as shops open as have to get car fixed in time for MOT retest.

Btw, I know standard will do, but I like to treat her. Also planning a big engine transplant in 5 months.

Will the front discs actually fit inside the rims?

Would have thought so if they're advertised as compatable. Why do you think they wouldn't be?

 

[Peperami]

Is the car not outside your house?

If it is look through the wheels, behind them will be the brakes.

 

[cat171]

100% sure yes - go out to your car & look, they won't look like the front brakes.

- Dan beat me to it.

 

[GabrielKnight]

I'll have to check in daylight.

I'm not questioning it, but why then do they seem to supply Nitrac discs for my car. See 4th one down:

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pa...enaultclio&manufacturer=nitrac&sub_category=1

Renault Clio (B/C57) (90>98), Rear Disc (Non ABS) **, 90>5/98

 

[GabrielKnight]

I'll have to check in daylight.

I'm not questioning that my rears are drums, but why then do they seem to supply Nitrac discs for my car. See 4th one down:

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pa...enaultclio&manufacturer=nitrac&sub_category=1

Renault Clio (B/C57) (90>98), Rear Disc (Non ABS) **, 90>5/98

 

[Peperami]

I'll have to check in daylight.

I'm not questioning that my rears are drums, but why then do they seem to supply Nitrac discs for my car. See 4th one down:

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pa...enaultclio&manufacturer=nitrac&sub_category=1

Renault Clio (B/C57) (90>98), Rear Disc (Non ABS) **, 90>5/98

Because that doesnt specify an engine size, or spec. The higher models may have discs fitted at the rear.

Without being funny mate, those discs wont make a shred of difference to your stopping power.

They wont even look that good, just like drum brakes.

 

[GabrielKnight]

Because that doesnt specify an engine size, or spec. The higher models may have discs fitted at the rear.

Without being funny mate, those discs wont make a shred of difference to your stopping power.

They wont even look that good, just like drum brakes.

Fair enough. I'm guessing the market for performance drums is rather thin?

 

[GabrielKnight]

Any way at all of converting the rear drums to discs?