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All for very little difference in handling I suppose.
The_Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
The benefit of buying a non-cup packed car is the choice of coilovers is greater due to the bolt spacing AFAIK.
You can add a Cup spoiler and paint the wheels and pretend.
You can add a Cup spoiler and paint the wheels and pretend.
I wouldn't bother worrying ! Paint the wheels grey (or steal a set) and get coilovers !
Mines non cup packs and I don't reget it !
Mines non cup packs and I don't reget it !
this.
clio diesel
There is probably just as much difference between two non-cup pack cars as there is between a cup and a non-cup.
This is renault, not exactly known for their precision. You only have to look at standard cars to see they dont all sit the same.
This is renault, not exactly known for their precision. You only have to look at standard cars to see they dont all sit the same.
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If it was £1 yes.
If you are going to immediately have to buy a cup spoiler and refurbish the wheels factor that into the price, £100-150 for a cup spoiler if your lucky enough to find one in the colour you want or that amount plus paint if you don't and a decent refurb on the wheels will be £200 ish.
Depends what your plans are going to be, if you want something to buy and leave alone then I'd get a good condition cup packed one; if your going to buy coilovers, change wheels etc then buy it if its in good nick and a decent price.
Go see a FF182 in the flesh and then the non cup packed one and see if you could live with leaving it how it is maybe?
Depends what your plans are going to be, if you want something to buy and leave alone then I'd get a good condition cup packed one; if your going to buy coilovers, change wheels etc then buy it if its in good nick and a decent price.
Go see a FF182 in the flesh and then the non cup packed one and see if you could live with leaving it how it is maybe?
The only reason I'd be worried is that Cooksport Springs work best with cup shocks. But then I'd be letting Dan@SJM refurb the suspension and he fits cup shocks anyway.
I'm not worried about coilovers at the moment but maybe in the future, the wheels are already refurbed anthracite (in perfect condition), so I'd only need cup spoiler and splitter to make it look cup-packed. Its a very clean in and out car with low mileage which make it appealing to me. Hmm decisions!
But not racecar?
I personally think the splitter and cup spoiler make a good difference in the looks, not sure if the non cup ones come with the horrible seats or not?
Suspension isn't really a big deal tbh, as said if you fancy modifying it there's more choice for coilovers etc.
I personally would prefer a 182 cup or FF over a non cup packed one.
Only the cups came with the horrid seats, non cup models have the normal seats, cup packs or not.
Clio 197
I originally wanted one with the cup packs but then quickly realised it made little to no difference what so ever to me; splitter, bigger spoiler and slightly lower &
different wheel colour....nothing that couldnt be changed yourself if you wanted. Definitely not a reason to not buy a 182
I originally wanted one with the cup packs but then quickly realised it made little to no difference what so ever to me; splitter, bigger spoiler and slightly lower &
different wheel colour....nothing that couldnt be changed yourself if you wanted. Definitely not a reason to not buy a 182
Thank you, that makes a lot of sense! It has the wheels already painted anthracite so thats not a problem, will just keep an eye out for a cup spoiler/trophy spoiler and splitter, then its basically sorted
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
If you're planning to change bits, then it's definitely not an issue. The only issue I saw with the non-cupped 182 was that the profile view made it look like a 4x4.
It was a no brainer when I was ticking the options list when I ordered the car. Iirc, it was something like a £250 option. Quite why people didn't do that as default is a little unusual to me - lol.
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It was a no brainer when I was ticking the options list when I ordered the car. Iirc, it was something like a £250 option. Quite why people didn't do that as default is a little unusual to me - lol.
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You could also get a 182CUP. No Climate control, xenons or leathers though!
PH1 Track Car
Exactly
its a daily so i want the luxuriesIts reassuring that people would still buy standard ones.
2 cup packs:
styling one = splitter thats probably broken and a spoiler
Solution to buying without:
splitter is 120 ish quid, or 15 quid for a superior skoda one that doesnt break as easily
spoiler personally I dont really care about looks wise, but if you do you can buy one relatively cheaply
Suspension cup pack = different hubs with different bolt spacing, bigger bearings, and slightly different steering arm angles, and shocks that need replacing anyway as will the springs for most people
Solution to buying without:
buy a secondhand set of hubs for not a lot of money, and some new shocks
or just ignore as its not a difference you will ever notice anyway
I would take a good condition non cupped pack one over a slightly worse condition cup packed one every time personally!
styling one = splitter thats probably broken and a spoiler
Solution to buying without:
splitter is 120 ish quid, or 15 quid for a superior skoda one that doesnt break as easily
spoiler personally I dont really care about looks wise, but if you do you can buy one relatively cheaply
Suspension cup pack = different hubs with different bolt spacing, bigger bearings, and slightly different steering arm angles, and shocks that need replacing anyway as will the springs for most people
Solution to buying without:
buy a secondhand set of hubs for not a lot of money, and some new shocks
or just ignore as its not a difference you will ever notice anyway
I would take a good condition non cupped pack one over a slightly worse condition cup packed one every time personally!
Cup suspension is zero difference. I've had two 182's now, one with no cup packs, one with both. In terms of handling there is absolutely no difference. as for the splitter the majority of them are missing anyway, so its down to the colour of the alloys and rear spoiler.
Care to elaborate?
Yeah, I will get the skoda one, and I suppose it keeps up the option to get coilovers If I wanted too. I doubt I'll even notice the difference at all.
Standard hubs you mean?
Or have you forgotten how easy it is to just swap on some lowering springs and new cup (172 cup) shocks onto a non cup packed 182 to get fantastic handling and decent looks?
The hubs are the only non trivial thing to change, and TBH even then its not that hard to find a secondhand set and swap them over, but there is just no point normally, as you wont notice it in reality.
The_Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
It's hardly going to be lower on 172 Cup springs???
Exactly
Xenons arnt that great anyway, if you like a constant buzzing get climate.. Half leather seats and less supportive that the ones in my 182 Cup.
