can remapping my 1.4 16v 98bhp clio mk2 damage my engine?

[ClioPetrolHead]

so today i was washing my car and then i saw my neighbour across the streets he owns many cars and he sells them he said he remaps every car he has he said that he can get the files for my 1.4 16v and remap it for free and i said theres no point because it wont get more then 5bhp but again i might do it because its going to be free i was wondering if it will damage my ecu/engine?

 

[Louis]

If you put diesel in instead of petrol you'll get that 5bhp mate.

 

[ClioPetrolHead]

If you put diesel in instead of petrol you'll get that 5bhp mate.

what u mean bro?

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

@Typhoon is the man with these

 

[Louis]

Fill your car up with diesel, pour petrol over the rest and then light a match mate

 

[Louis]

@Christ Almighty

 

[ClioPetrolHead]

Fill your car up with diesel, pour petrol over the rest and then light a match mate

yo that sounds like it will work man im gonna try that thanks bro

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Christ Almighty

This sums up every thread from this member so far.

 

[Mr Plums]

Surely these all cant be real questions?

If it is theres there's absolutely no point in mapping it anyway, it wont do anything, software cant break the ecu but some softwear can lock it, i cant see it damaging the engine tbh, unless he maps it so lean it melts your pistons, althought i doubt your engine could generate enough heat to melt cheese.

 

[ClioPetrolHead]

Surely these all cant be real questions?

If it is theres there's absolutely no point in mapping it anyway, it wont do anything, software cant break the ecu but some softwear can lock it, i cant see it damaging the engine tbh, unless he maps it so lean it melts your pistons, althought i doubt your engine could generate enough heat to melt cheese.

Man I'm only 17 if I could of get insured on a 182 or something better I would never bother with a 1.4 lol I don't know if a remap is gonna help it gain more power or not thats why im asking this form

 

[Gus]

so today i was washing my car and then i saw my neighbour across the streets he owns many cars and he sells them he said he remaps every car he has he said that he can get the files for my 1.4 16v and remap it for free and i said theres no point because it wont get more then 5bhp but again i might do it because its going to be free i was wondering if it will damage my ecu/engine?

Hi,
I probably wouldn't remap unless he can back up your current map and revert the car in case he makes it worse. Have you done any supporting mods like air filter or exhaust/decat.

 

[Mr Plums]

It would probably gain 5bhp peak power, but it might gain 10bhp midrange from like 3k rpm to 5k rpm.

It might make it a little more driveable and add i tiny bit of torque so it pulls a little better for overtaking, but because your engine is small the increases will be small too, so you might not be able to tell like you would with a larger capacity turbocharged unit.

If its free, and he knows what hes doing then give it a go mate.

 

[ClioPetrolHead]

It would probably gain 5bhp peak power, but it might gain 10bhp midrange from like 3k rpm to 5k rpm.

It might make it a little more driveable and add i tiny bit of torque so it pulls a little better for overtaking, but because your engine is small the increases will be small too, so you might not be able to tell like you would with a larger capacity turbocharged unit.

If its free, and he knows what hes doing then give it a go mate.

Thank you now that's the answer I appreciate

 

[ClioPetrolHead]

Hi,
I probably wouldn't remap unless he can back up your current map and revert the car in case he makes it worse. Have you done any supporting mods like air filter or exhaust/decat.

It has induction kit on Hornet exhaust will decat soon

 

[Oggy997]

Just accept you have to have a slow car in your first few years of driving if you're not prepared to pay a small fortune to insure a fast car instead.
I started on a 1.2 8v Clio, 9 months into the first year I bought a 172 and paid more for the final 3 months of the policy than I did for the whole 12m on the 1.2 (which was also modified)

Since then I've owned:
172
206 2.0 HDi
EP3 Type R
Clio 182
Golf GTi (mk 5)
Boxster 987

If I had the 987 from me passing my test, I'd be dead.

 

[ADS_V6]

It has induction kit on Hornet exhaust will decat soon

Be careful with baked decat on a hornet exhaust.Watch it doesn't come back and bite you on the bum

 

[ClioPetrolHead]

Be careful with baked decat on a hornet exhaust.Watch it doesn't come back and bite you on the bum

What u mean lol

 

[ClioPetrolHead]

Just accept you have to have a slow car in your first few years of driving if you're not prepared to pay a small fortune to insure a fast car instead.
I started on a 1.2 8v Clio, 9 months into the first year I bought a 172 and paid more for the final 3 months of the policy than I did for the whole 12m on the 1.2 (which was also modified)

Since then I've owned:
172
206 2.0 HDi
EP3 Type R
Clio 182
Golf GTi (mk 5)
Boxster 987

If I had the 987 from me passing my test, I'd be dead.

Yeah true EP3 type r is the car I really want lol I guess Ima have to stick to this Clio for a year or two it will probz be r.i.p by that time

 

[Christopher]

I wouldn't bother.

 

[Martin_172]

any car is worth remapping if done properly and that's the key statement. Your neighbour getting the files for free unless hes a nice generous guy who works for a highly regarded mapping company is a walk away moment.

best way to increase power on the 1.4 16v if your set on mapping it is wait till its due a cambelt, pull the block off and fit the 1.6 16v block, there is a 10-15hp gain straight away (if running the 1.6 16v ECU file) - then if you remap the ecu there will be a bit more to be had, fastchip does the software for 1.6 16v, I bet you could just flash that file onto your 1.4 ECU after a block swap and be close to 20hp up!

 

[Christopher]

any car is worth remapping if done properly and that's the key statement. Your neighbour getting the files for free unless hes a nice generous guy who works for a highly regarded mapping company is a walk away moment.

best way to increase power on the 1.4 16v if your set on mapping it is wait till its due a cambelt, pull the block off and fit the 1.6 16v block, there is a 10-15hp gain straight away (if running the 1.6 16v ECU file) - then if you remap the ecu there will be a bit more to be had, fastchip does the software for 1.6 16v, I bet you could just flash that file onto your 1.4 ECU after a block swap and be close to 20hp up!

I didn't know the heads were the same. Decent.

 

[Martin_172]

yeah K4M and K4J engines are basically identical just with a different stroke I assume they use the same ECU but not 100% as ive never really looked into it, Siemens Sirius32 on the 1.6 16v anyway, same as the 172

 

[Christopher]

yeah K4M and K4J engines are basically identical just with a different stroke I assume they use the same ECU but not 100% as ive never really looked into it, Siemens Sirius32 on the 1.6 16v anyway, same as the 172

Decent. Nice swap then.
Can you fit the Twingo 133 head/inlet/manifold etc?

 

[Martin_172]

I would imagine so, ive never had a poke about the the twingo engine in great detail but I think the block will be the same so it will just be the head. as far as I know the mk2 k4m clios didn't have VVT and the MK3 ones did, but the ecu in the mk2 will support VVT being the same as the 172.

ive got a 1.6 16v clio sitting doing nothing that I bought cheap a while back got a turbo manifold for it, just never had time to do anything with it!

 

[Christopher]

I would imagine so, ive never had a poke about the the twingo engine in great detail but I think the block will be the same so it will just be the head. as far as I know the mk2 k4m clios didn't have VVT and the MK3 ones did, but the ecu in the mk2 will support VVT being the same as the 172.

ive got a 1.6 16v clio sitting doing nothing that I bought cheap a while back got a turbo manifold for it, just never had time to do anything with it!

It probably would do then. Back in the day, a lad on here (Dave) had a really spicy F4M Mk2. Awesome thing.

 

[cjgower]

Don't remap it. Save your money and put it towards your next car. If you do feel the need to modify then look at changing the cars appearance and not its performance.

 

[R3k1355]

I'd be highly suspicious of anyone who says they can map your car for nothing with a file from the internet.
Mapping equipment and files are extraordinarily expensive for proper stuff, there's a few knock-offs around but there's very little chance of getting hold of decent maps for free.

Especially for something like a 1.4 Clio, who's going to the trouble of writing that map??

 

[Martin_172]

I'd be highly suspicious of anyone who says they can map your car for nothing with a file from the internet.
Mapping equipment and files are extraordinarily expensive for proper stuff, there's a few knock-offs around but there's very little chance of getting hold of decent maps for free.

Especially for something like a 1.4 Clio, who's going to the trouble of writing that map??

all the big uk companies do software for them, along with more in Europe. its just getting a good one and not some downloaded rubbish

 

[R3k1355]

All the big companies charge a decent amount of money for their maps as well though, they keep a pretty tight control over the maps as it's worth lots of money to em.

 

[Martin_172]

All the big companies charge a decent amount of money for their maps as well though, they keep a pretty tight control over the maps as it's worth lots of money to em.

as I said above then, but you said who is going to go to the hassle of writing a map for that engine...

 

[JayD]

Bear in mind after the remap you can only run it on super unleaded.

 

[bloke]

Bear in mind after the remap you can only run it on super unleaded.

Depends on how it's mapped.

 

[JayD]

An off the shelf performance map would always be for SUL. If it was an economy map (do they exist for petrols?) or a custom map then it would be a different matter.

 

[Knuckles]

It probably would do then. Back in the day, a lad on here (Dave) had a really spicy F4M Mk2. Awesome thing.

Hutchy? He had a 1.6 on fireblade throttle boddies. Just as the project got interesting he stopped posting

 

[Gus]

@ClioPetrolHead did you get it mapped in the end?

 

[Louis]

@ClioPetrolHead did you get it mapped in the end?

Pretty sure he's just a troll mate.

 

[iimushroomzii]

Hutchy? He had a 1.6 on fireblade throttle boddies. Just as the project got interesting he stopped posting 😧

Wasn't it mini-valver or something like that?

 

[iimushroomzii]

http://www.cliosport.net/threads/k4m-project-blog.281664/

 

[Christopher]

Hutchy? He had a 1.6 on fireblade throttle boddies. Just as the project got interesting he stopped posting 😧

Nope, Dave. Before your time I think, his username was mini-valver. WEC GT mechanic now.

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

Dave Hudson his name was IIRC. Mate of a few mates. Seemed a good lad