Can someone confirm if these are Cup or Trophy Turinis?

[Greeny.]

Can't see anything obvious telling me the ET, what should I be looking for from these?

 

[p@blo]

Date stamp is Oct 02 isn't it?

 

[Greeny.]

Ah Defo cup turinis then

 

[Keyser Soze]

Whats the differnce between the two?

 

[p@blo]

The offset. Itll be on the inner rim edge with the wheel dimensions. Should be 38.5 if thats the date stamp & 45 from memory on the trophy. Cups ran slightly narrower rear hubs to retain std track.