Car feel's sluggish?

[lasbazrre]

Sometime's my car feel's realy sluggish, i press the throttle nothing , or nearly staling it when pulling away from the light's, it seem's like if i don't hit a certain sweet spot on the throttle pedel it wont respond how i think it should?

Other time's it feel's razer sharp, and free as a bird , sometimes i have too brake when pulling away or i'll hit the car in front! or touch the throttle and i'm flying?

This could be in one trip in the car , not over a number of days , any thoughts?

Thanks

leon

 

[Igster]

I'd be interested to hear any solutions to this one, I'm suffering with a similar problem mate. Even within one journey the response of the car varies so much! Sometimes the engine seems to sound more rough too don't know whether this is something you have noticed? Mine seems to feel lacking in response mainly in 1st and 2nd too, don't know why this is.

I'm having a few problems at the moment:

1) Clutch clicking and generally feeling not smooth releasing the pedal.
2) Sluggish at times as you are suffering.
3) Doesn't start first time of a morning and if it does it takes longer than normal and struggles.
4) Exhaust puffing out air every couple of seconds at idle and i'm not sure its sounding healthy.

I'm think I need to book it in with a specialist. Any suggestions close to Liverpool?? Heard good things about Yozzasport.

 

[Alan]

They dont like cold starts, they also struggle to turn over sometimes, i've found if you put the key in the ignition to start, wait til all the lights go off except from the battery and handbrake warning light as these wont go off for obvious reasons.

The sluggish feeling could be because of the weather jus now...warm air doesn't help at all.

And yeah Yozzasport are good.

 

[Igster]

I'm convinced its more than the weather, it varies in response a lot even within one journey like Lasbazzre. Feels to me like its holding back. 1st gear and second to some extent seem the worst though not sure why that is.

Is first a poor gear for pull anyway in the RS's??

 

[Fletcher]

^^^^What petrol are you running your 182 on.

 

[briny182]

mine occasionally does this too - it only happens when I start it in the morning - no starting problems, but it splutters and pops a bit, and the acceleration is jumpy to say the least. as soon as its warmed up in a couple of minutes its fine. (and my car is in an underground carpark, which is warmer than outside in the morning)

I've found with all cars I have they seem quicker and nicer to drive on certain days - but my problem and yours sounds different to that.

 

[Igster]

Running on V-Power mate, always do. I'm really not sure that its simply down to a bad day or warm air. Is it normal for car to feel more sluggish one day than another?? If so why is this. Any experts out there willing to shed some light on the problems??

Thanks for the replies guys

 

[lasbazrre]

V power also, it feels like the clutch or throttle cable's are sticking , that's how i would describe it, but the clutch cables three weeks old , and there is no throttle cable ?

leon

 

[Jesske]

Believe me, I've had lots of cars and fast cars and they all have and had it. Razor sharp and the next traffic lights it feels like a tank. Become crazy of this too

 

[Igster]

Could a faulty clutch cable cause this problem?? I have a creaking and clicking coming from the clutch pedal, i never looked at the possibility of the clutch causing this type of problem.

 

[Igster]

Jesske why is it that a car can vary so much even on one journey I really don't understand??

 

[Jesske]

Me neither. Ask my Seat dealer. He became crazy of me. I stood in his garage 5 times/week, wrote letters to Seat import, etc...
They all said it was normal. I couldn't believe it, but the 172 had it, the 182 has it, the RS4 has it, the STI has it, every f*cking car I drive has it. So 1 year ago I accepted the thought it could be normal. It will drive you crazy if you give attention to it. You will try to find explanations and you will find hundreds of possible explanations. I'm very glad I'm not alone

 

[Igster]

It seems we are indeed not alone. I find it so weird I was hoping for a reason to explain why but there doesn't seem to be one. If your Audi has it Jesske then the very best of cars must be plagued by this problem!!

 

[lasbazrre]

I feel my car seem's faster when i have the air con on!!!!

I know it should feel slower as it's draining power!

Is there any REAL reason for it too feel faster?

leon

 

[Jesske]

Please son't make it worse

 

[Igster]

haha not tried that with the air con on!! Will give it a go. Mine seemed a lot better this morning but still not what I'd expect.

 

[Michael172]

Why dont you try driving around in a 1.2 ?

Then youll know what sluggish is.

Turbo it if it feels sluggish.

 

[-Leigh-]

1) Clutch clicking and generally feeling not smooth releasing the pedal.
2) Sluggish at times as you are suffering.
3) Doesn't start first time of a morning and if it does it takes longer than normal and struggles.
4) Exhaust puffing out air every couple of seconds at idle and i'm not sure its sounding healthy.

All apart form number 3 sound normal. Only last night, went for a drive, and I thought to myself, my car feels slow, then five minutes later, it felt quick.

A lot of it is in the head, and getting used to the speed. Drive a 1.2 for a week, and then go back to yours, and it'll feel fast.
Also, I think air temp and pressure may have something to do with it.

Every car I have owned, I have had this. It's totally normal, it just happens.

 

[Igster]

I didn't realise 3 of the 4 points where common, i'm quite shocked. Anyone else suffer with the clutch pedal clicking?? Could the starting problems be linked with the sluggish behaviour? Are any ignition components that start the car involved with poor performance??

 

[-Leigh-]

My clutch isn't smooth, it's like there's 2 stages to it. But all 1*2's I've driven do it to an extent.
They all also run a bit ruff for the first 3-4 minutes of driving, though never had the not starting problem.

 

[Igster]

Is there a way to fix this problem or is it something you have to live with??

 

[lasbazrre]

Sometimes the engine seems to sound more rough too don't know whether this is something you have noticed?

Yeah ! it's very strange, 3/4k in first and second , one time it'll feel fast and smooth , another time it'll sound like it's screaming in pain and be really slow? ( this is when it's warmed up )

Two months ive had the car, and i still can't suss out how too get a nice , clean , smooth drive out of it ( when it's warm )

leon

 

[Igster]

Leon I think I have the exact same problem. This is the first time I have heard from someone who has an identical problem.

I've just been doing some reading on AFR and whether a faulty sensor could be causing the car to run poorly. I recently had the O2 sensor changed at Renault and I wonder if this has anything to do with it? Clutching at straws really as I've heard the following suggested as possible things to check:

Coilpack
Spark plugs
O2 sensor

Could the sensor be giving the wrong readings back to the ECU and therefore causing the car to run badly??

 

[lg172]

hello there just thought i would post a message sayin you ant alown , i drive a 172 and i have these same problems , made me smile reading it, Some days i get in my car its quick and i love drivein it and then other days the clutch is ruff, pulling off feels like the car is going to die, and the stearing feels like a tank!....................

 

[-Leigh-]

Same here. Also, have the rough sound at 3k, as you describe it. Each 172 I have driven has done it. My g/f's workmate has one, and he asked me whether mine did it yesterday actually. It's normal I suppose. I can only here it if I listen for it though.

I think you two are just a little paranoid lol.

 

[Igster]

I'm beginning to think I am mate, driving me insane this!! How can a bloody car take over your mind like this??

 

[lg172]

its like a bloody women thats why!! na just keep drivein it hard and wait to see what breaks.

mark

 

[lasbazrre]

Same here. Also, have the rough sound at 3k, as you describe it. Each 172 I have driven has done it. My g/f's workmate has one, and he asked me whether mine did it yesterday actually. It's normal I suppose. I can only here it if I listen for it though.

I think you two are just a little paranoid lol.

Maybe my mate, but you pay 8k for a car with 24k on the clock and still under warrenty, you would expect it too run on top foram every time you drove it once it had warmed up!

When it's driving right , it's on fire!, when it's not it's gutting!

I got all my fawlts deleted a couple of weeks back at Reault , the cars been in for bit's of warrenty work, they haven't said owt too me about sensers and stuff!

leon

 

[-Leigh-]

All cars are like it. Every car I have owned has been like it. When the engine is at optimum temp, the air is at optimum temp and pressure, then it will seem better then when it's not.

 

[Igster]

Maybe my mate, but you pay 8k for a car with 24k on the clock and still under warrenty, you would expect it too run on top foram every time you drove it once it had warmed up!

When it's driving right , it's on fire!, when it's not it's gutting!

I got all my fawlts deleted a couple of weeks back at Reault , the cars been in for bit's of warrenty work, they haven't said owt too me about sensers and stuff!

What faults where deleted??

 

[lasbazrre]

Agreed my mate, that's why ive put ( when warm ) after everything ive posted.

I think it could be the fly by wire throttle, somtimes i touch the trottle and i'm off !!! fast , smooth , purring away, other times on the same drive , my foot's pressing the throttle but the car's , slow, jurky, and sreaming it's head off!!! and i'm not going as fast as i was five mines ago , when it was flying?

leon

 

[lasbazrre]

Maybe my mate, but you pay 8k for a car with 24k on the clock and still under warrenty, you would expect it too run on top foram every time you drove it once it had warmed up!

When it's driving right , it's on fire!, when it's not it's gutting!

I got all my fawlts deleted a couple of weeks back at Reault , the cars been in for bit's of warrenty work, they haven't said owt too me about sensers and stuff!

What faults where deleted??

Service and TC controle light came on , so i took it in, it was a brake senser!

All car's with ECU's have daft little faults logged on them, little senser faults and the like !

That's why it's good too reset the ECU every few week's , too clear the broken bit's of info! imo.

leon

 

[TheJesus]

Leon, I think every car suffers, mine does in this heat at the moment to a degree, but it's not 'that' noticable to be honest... how down on power does it feel, quite a lot?

Main thing on mine is a dirty filter, it literally kills performance... Andy cleaned mine again yesterday and driving back it was fookin' flying... I wont say how long it took me to get home (167 miles)

 

[Igster]

Main thing on mine is a dirty filter, it literally kills performance...

Air filter you mean??? I've just changed to an ITG panel filter so can't be that for me.

 

[Igster]

How do you reset the ECU then?

 

[lasbazrre]

Leon, I think every car suffers, mine does in this heat at the moment to a degree, but it's not 'that' noticable to be honest... how down on power does it feel, quite a lot?

Main thing on mine is a dirty filter, it literally kills performance... Andy cleaned mine again yesterday and driving back it was fookin' flying... I wont say how long it took me to get home (167 miles)

I wouldn't say the car's down on power, sometimes it's such a change from drive too drive , one second it's s**t hot, another and it's just s**t!

Do a ECU reset search mate , there a good few!

leon

 

[TheJesus]

Igster - is makes a huge amount of difference on mine when the air filter is stinkin dirty and I'm toldto clean mine every 1k... but tbh it's more likely that I should really be doing it once a week.

sounds more like a mapping issue, but that's unlikely as your's is standard isn't it??? I thought you meant performance at first too, if it's general running though it could be a dodgy ECU

PS - to reset ECU just leave the batter disconnected for a few hours, that's how it was done on my Williams when I had a Killpower ECU on it

 

[Igster]

I didn't think that it could get dirty in such a short space of time but I'll give that a check to make sure!!

 

[TheJesus]

mine's a little different... it's got no slam pannel and the filter sits in front of 4 trumpets, so time scale is exagerated, still, worth checking as a dirty filter either way will prevent air getting in as quickly

 

[lasbazrre]

No Jon , ive had a remap, but the car felt the same before , the same off and on feeling!

Maybe it's just a Renault thing? Lol

leon