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Car Polish, Online Which Report



  Clio 197


Ok guys, not sure where to post this, thus general discussion is a good idea?

FROM ONLINE WHICH?

Car polish

Our Best Buy polishes will not only make your car gleam, but they will protect it from the ravages of nature

Every newly polished bonnet is a prime-firing target for pigeons, or so it can seem. Our feathered friends can do considerable damage to a cars paintwork, so its wise to choose a polish that protects your car as well as one that makes it gleam.

But if you havent yet found a favourite brand, a shopping trip could leave you feeling somewhat perplexed. Is there a difference between wax and polish? Should you buy a colour-specific one? Should you buy a spray-on polish or one that is applied with wipes? Fear not, weve rolled up our sleeves and set to work with 25 popular polishes that youll find in car shops, garages or supermarkets. Our endeavours reveal not only which polishes will make your car gleam and which ones will best protect it from the elements but, also, which ones offer the best resistance to the dreaded bird droppings.

The full report:


Reviews products from Ambersil, Armor All, Autocare, Autoglym, Car Plan, Comma, Eagle One, Halfords, Mer, Simoniz, Sonax, Turtle Wax, Wonder Wax and Zymol
Explains how we tested the products
Tells you how often to polish...
...and how to get the best from your polishing
And reveals, which we found to be most pigeon-proof of them all!
Why Wax?
The terms wax and polish are used interchangeably in this article as, essentially, they do the same thing. There are two main reasons to polish your car. The first is to make it look nice. Polishes should add shine and help to conceal surface scuffs and marks (though theyre unlikely to mask scratches which have removed paintwork). The second is to help protect your cars bodywork against unavoidable environmental damage from things like rain, grime, salts, tree sap, and bird droppings. Even sunlight can cause harm.

Nowadays, the bodywork of new cars is given an anti-corrosion treatment and a clear hard protective topcoat over the colour layer. But, as the car ages, this barrier diminishes, leaving the bodywork duller and more exposed to the elements which can cause rusting. Keeping your car clean helps remove some of the agents which can cause damage and also helps to revive its appearance. But applying polish goes further by adding a physical barrier that can help prolong the life of a new cars topcoat or, on an older car, compensate for one thats deteriorated.

Staying Power
For some diligent people, polishing their car is a weekly pastime. But, for many of us, its considered a chore. So, if youd rather polish your car as seldom as possible, its best to choose a polish that will protect your car for as long as possible.

In our tests, all polishes gave good protection for as long as six weeks, while a few were still going strong after three months. You can tell how well your car is protected from the elements by looking at how well the surface repels one of bodyworks main enemies - water. If the surface is waxed, droplets of water rest on it in high, dome-shaped beads. This beading means that the waters making minimal contact with the surface and is less of a hazard. On an unwaxed surface, rather than being repelled, water droplets flatten and spread out. This is a good indication that extra protection is needed.

In our technical tests, we compared the water repellent qualities of the polishes by putting them on car panels and comparing them with untreated sections. We found that all polishes gave a measurable improvement in repelling water when first applied. After the equivalent of six weeks, all polishes were still giving good results compared with the untreated panels.

But, after three months of artificial rain, salt and sun weathering results were far more varied. Five of the polishes, particularly Eagle One, Halfords Rapid, Simoniz Max Wax Cream, Mer, and Turtle Wax High Gloss Spray, were scarcely better at repelling water than unpolished panels. The more durable polishes, however, really showed their mettle. Halfords Colour, Halfords Showroom, Teflon and Turtle Wax Colour polishes were still going strong. Comma Top Gloss was also fairly long lasting. These are the ones for you if youre a reluctant polisher.


How Good Does it Look?

us which waxes they thought gave the best finish. We used them on an 11-year old, red car to compare the appearance of the different polishes because we thought this was likely to highlight the biggest differences. Our panel of five polishers, including a professional valeter, assessed how much shine and gloss each polish added to the car. This judgement didnt take into account the quality or condition of the cars surface before polishing - the panel just rated how shiny they thought the polished area looked on its own merits. Their consensus was that Autoglym Super Resin gave the most shine and gloss. But several polishes - particularly Car Plans Demon Shine and Halfords Rapid Wax - left our testers pretty underwhelmed.

Most polishes gave an even finish but our tests found that Zymöl Cleaner Wax and Comma Top Gloss both left some streaking and smearing.

Scuffs and Scratches
After 11 years on the road, our cars paintwork was blotchy, faded and dull, with plenty of scuffs and scratches. So the team assessed the extent of overall improvement each polish could bring. The best products were the Halfords Williams F1 Team and the Car Plan Triplewax. These are your best bets if you want to improve the appearance of an old car. But if minor scuffs and scratches are your primary concern, the Triplewax stood out as the best. For deeper scratches that have removed paint, youll need specialist products or a bodyshop.

The Costs Compared
Its tricky to work out which polishes give the best value for money. This could vary depending on consistency (some are runnier than others), how often you need to use them, and how big or old your car is. Weve tried to give some indication of comparative costs by calculating the cost per millilitre. Sadly, our budget didnt extend to trying out Zymöls Vintage wax which, at £1,300 (refillable for life), costs more than many second-hand cars. Youd have to be a very enthusiastic car polisher to get your moneys worth with that brand.

Best Buys
No single polish excelled in all our tests. If your main priority is longer-lasting protection, we recommend Turtle Wax Color Magic Plus £8.99 and Halfords Colour Polish £7.99.

These two proved to last longer than most of the other polishes - they gave excellent protection for up to three months - and did a reasonable job at adding shine and gloss. Turtle Wax comes in eight different colours, and Halfords polish in seven.

Comma Top Gloss Car Polish £4.99 also gave fairly long-lasting protection and a good finish. However, it proved a bit messy to use.
If you are trying to revive your cars good looks - perhaps to prepare it for sale - we recommend Halfords Williams F1 Team £9.99 and Car Plan Triplewax £4.99. They give good medium-term protection. Turtle Wax Metallic Liquid £5.99 is also worth considering. Simoniz Teflon Polish was one of the best protectors but rated poorly for appearance. So we havent made it a Best Buy
 

GR7

  Shiny red R32


Interesting that Turtle Wax Colour Magic Plus and Halfords Colour Polish are best buys! Ive never thought of using a colour polish, Ill check if they do a black.

Thanks Omar :)
 

Lee

  BMW M2C


I used to use colour magic on my very first car, a faded Red Astra. It did a really good job, and my dad uses it on his Black Celica, but as for staying power, its washed away after a quick shower!! Im guessing they have improved it since.

BTW, it rained on mine tonight after doing the full Zymol thing to it yesterday, I have never seen water bead and run off like that before. :eek:
 

GR7

  Shiny red R32


Surely water will bead off any car after giving it a good waxing, particularly the following day - and the next, and the next, and the next.......
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab


Quote: Originally posted by Lee M on 02 August 2004


I used to use colour magic on my very first car, a faded Red Astra. It did a really good job, and my dad uses it on his Black Celica, but as for staying power, its washed away after a quick shower!! Im guessing they have improved it since.

BTW, it rained on mine tonight after doing the full Zymol thing to it yesterday, I have never seen water bead and run off like that before. :eek:
tell me about it Lee, it really is amazing isnt it, mine has been like that for weeks now. Just wait until you wash it again, it will be sooo easy to wash, the dirt just falls off!
 
  Mondeo STTDCI


Its a f**king stupid report anyway. "Wax and Polish do the same thing".

PMSL!
 
  Clio 197


There is a great deal of confusion between Wax and Polish.

This has been created by manufacturers, due to poor labelling.

I hear the word "polish", and immediatey think of abrasives/cutting agents, which take a tiny bit of paint off, to reveal a fresh shine.

I hear the word "wax", and think of wax (ie stuff you get in candles), which will leave a protective layer on the paint, and give shine.

Heres the tricky part:
Which products are protective (wax), and which are abrasive(poilsh)?
How often should you polish?
Should you polish at all, unless it is absolutely necessary for your car to look brand new?


I used to use Autoglym super resin polish on my Kawasaki. After two years of owning and polishing, one day I found a load of Green Paint on my polishing cloth. Gutted.

Now Im a bit more careful, and a lot more confused.

Regards,

Oms.
 
  Mondeo STTDCI


lol. I agree with above. A proper POLISH is abrasive (indeed to varying degrees) whereas a Wax "feeds and protects".

imho of course.
 

GR7

  Shiny red R32


Quote: Originally posted by Adamf on 02 August 2004


DONT USE COLOUR POLISH!!!

I used it all the time on dads old red car and in the end it went pink!
Red cars often fade somewhat, especially when out in all winds and weathers/bright sun etc - whether polished/waxed or not - nothing to do with using coloured polish - it is the pigment used in red. Have you never seen the colour of old Novas, Astras, Escorts etc? Red is the worst colour for fading - just ask any paint/bodyshop guys!

Possibly something to do with water-based paint used these days compared to the cellulose used a few years ago.
 


what a load of rubbish - here we go again ! so thats why red ferraris go "pink"

what a load of mailto:s@:$e">s@:$e!!!

do a search omar on here for people who have experience of the entire range of waxes and poeple like girlracer who talk out of there backside.

:mad:
 


thanks omar - cars treated with wax of a good quality will not have a fading effect.

opinions vary but topshop valeting on here is a good source for "real" information on this subject as he talks with full experience on different ranges from halfords range to zymol.

personally we use zymol for our fleet of cars and the paint has never faded but topshop valeting recommends another brand which is also excellent.

point been : its personal choice but once you have tried high grade products (which unfortunately have high price tags sometimes!) you wont go back.

the guide listed above is not a comprehensive guide unfortunately and our sister company (which may I add is a bodyshop) uses zymol eveytime with a %100 sucess rate and customer satisfaction.

Hope this is of help
 

GR7

  Shiny red R32


Quote: Originally posted by 172Fast! on 03 August 2004


what a load of rubbish - here we go again ! so thats why red ferraris go "pink"

what a load of mailto:s@:$e">s@:$e!!!

do a search omar on here for people who have experience of the entire range of waxes and poeple like girlracer who talk out of there backside.

:mad:






Who mentioned anything about red Ferraris? I daresay they also fade a bit too - just open the door on an older red car and look at the area where the door hinges and surrounding areas are and compare it to the outside. The roof probably gets it worse in very bright sunshine. A friend of mine has a red 51 reg Pug 206CC and was showing me the inside door areas at the weekend and the red has faded somewhat - (not metallic) and her husband is always Auto Glymming it.
 


Wrong!

Any car that is not treated and exposed to the various weathers will eventually fade.

if you use a wax that protects the car properly and its applied on a regular basis the fading will not happen.

We have a G reg mk 2 Golf 16v in the family and its as good as the day we took delivery - no fading nothing , simply because the car has been looked after properly. (cleaned and waxed on a regular basis)
 

GR7

  Shiny red R32


Back in the G reg days they were probably still using cellulose paint which was much better than the water-based paint used now!
 
  Remapped derv Golf


Colour Magic may only work on certain colours/paint types.

The blue one also balls up my mk4 Escort. Looked like someone had painted darker blue paint on with a brush.

Although I was a dumb 18 year old back then.;)
 
  VaVa


Quote: Originally posted by Lee M on 02 August 2004


I used to use colour magic on my very first car, a faded Red Astra. It did a really good job, and my dad uses it on his Black Celica, but as for staying power, its washed away after a quick shower!! Im guessing they have improved it since.

BTW, it rained on mine tonight after doing the full Zymol thing to it yesterday, I have never seen water bead and run off like that before. :eek:
looks ace doesnt it??!!

Myself and a friend of mine ( who preps paintwork on concept cars for landrover) gave my car the treatment. Washed her, then polished with some stuff he had got from work(?) then waxed with Meguirs 16 stuff........ Had about ten minutes of rain earlier and it looked stunning!!
 


zymol is very good - let those who experience it make the comments - not those (such as girlracer) who talk from No experience whatsoever on this product. (you stick to you range love ok!?)

entry level on zymol really is concours and then go above this for better quality.

why does so many high valued car owners go for this product and no other !?
 
  Clio v6


I have a bottle of Zymol "Auto Polish" its a pale blue colour and smells like coconut. I used it once but the smell made me heave, and it didnt do anything spectacular. It says "Especially developed for todays water based paint finishes"

Maybe the old fashion polishes do a better job on old cars? but saying that, the old green Turlewax in a tin always brought my V6 up a treat.

Tried the Meguires 3 stage and I personally couldnt see any difference to the cheapo wax. I know Im know expert so I just speak as I find. I believe a car is for driving and not polishing:eek:
 


try zymol concours and then you will see the difference - not to everyones choice granted. different class to those sold at halfords james.
 
  Clio v6


Maybe I need to see a car polished using a different class. If I am convinced it makes the car handle better, Ill stock up my garage shelves with it.
 


Quote: Originally posted by GirlRacer on 03 August 2004


Quote: Originally posted by 172Fast! on 03 August 2004


what a load of rubbish - here we go again ! so thats why red ferraris go "pink"

what a load of mailto:s@:$e">s@:$e!!!

do a search omar on here for people who have experience of the entire range of waxes and poeple like girlracer who talk out of there backside.

:mad:






Who mentioned anything about red Ferraris? I daresay they also fade a bit too - just open the door on an older red car and look at the area where the door hinges and surrounding areas are and compare it to the outside. The roof probably gets it worse in very bright sunshine. A friend of mine has a red 51 reg Pug 206CC and was showing me the inside door areas at the weekend and the red has faded somewhat - (not metallic) and her husband is always Auto Glymming it.




i had a red rs 1800, on a k plate and that was kept properly waxed (not polished) and that didnt fade at all, mine was the same colour as when i bouhgt it, but i looked at other rs at the time and they did fade, so its down to keeping the car properly clean
 


Quote: Originally posted by GirlRacer on 02 August 2004


Interesting that Turtle Wax Colour Magic Plus and Halfords Colour Polish are best buys! Ive never thought of using a colour polish, Ill check if they do a black.

Thanks Omar :)



not that interesting, you posted this yourself a few weeks ago(your not omar in diguise are you ??), so why you suprised ???, as we said back then they did not review any proper waxes i.e zymol, meguiars, mothers, they just tested polishes, so you can not say they are the best ones.

the dulling on the red car was porbably caused by using these cheap waxes, because so much of the paint has been rubbed off.

:)
 


Quote: Originally posted by omar on 02 August 2004


There is a great deal of confusion between Wax and Polish.

This has been created by manufacturers, due to poor labelling.

I hear the word "polish", and immediatey think of abrasives/cutting agents, which take a tiny bit of paint off, to reveal a fresh shine.

I hear the word "wax", and think of wax (ie stuff you get in candles), which will leave a protective layer on the paint, and give shine.

Heres the tricky part:
Which products are protective (wax), and which are abrasive(poilsh)?
How often should you polish?
Should you polish at all, unless it is absolutely necessary for your car to look brand new?


I used to use Autoglym super resin polish on my Kawasaki. After two years of owning and polishing, one day I found a load of Green Paint on my polishing cloth. Gutted.

Now Im a bit more careful, and a lot more confused.

Regards,

Oms.


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you should have used the extra gloss protection as its "none abrasive" (bit late now i know).



i wonder how meny people actually read the labels on products
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dk

  911 GTS Cab


do you guys ever sleep? You were busy all through the night!

I used to use Mer and all that sort of stuff but have recently bought some Zymol Concours Wax from peoples recommendations on here so that I could make up my own mind and I am very impressed, it is an excellent product and I will continue to use it. I have also heard good reports about Mothers so will also try some of that at some point.

You cant really argue about products you havent used, so give them a go and you may be surprised!
 
  Clio 197


Ok... to finally sort this lets do the following:

Arrange to meet, and everyone can bring all the wax/polish they have in their garage.

Wash and wax our cars, and try each others products (therefore trying everything, without committing and having half used bottles everywhere at home).

Go for a drinky-poo, then go home.

:)
 

Lee

  BMW M2C


I used to use Zymol in a bottle from Halfords James. It looked nice but wasnt anything special and certainly didnt last very long.

This morning I drove to work in the rain, parked up next to a couple of other soaked cars and went to the gym. When I came out mine was bone dry and streak free, the other two cars were still soaked. Anything which has a small amount of wax in it will make water bead, but Ive never seen it do it the way it does it on top of Zymol. Everytime I braked or accelerated the water just ran off.

I reckon Ill be able to wash it with nothing more than a bucket of warm water and a sponge this weekend!!
 


ok guys and gals lets look at what this report came up with when they dont understand that waxs do not polish a car.and there budget did not allow them to test zymol vintage which if they bought the sample kit would have only been less than £200 if i remember rightly correct me if im wrong long time since buying zymol and i had it at trade lol.they would have had to under zymol instructions applied hd cleanse first before applying the wax.also in the test they never clayed the surface of the panel they were testing on so they were not seeing the true clarity of the product they were using.they also did not specify what sort of applicators they used and what sort of cloths they used to wipe the panel down afterwards all of these factors will effect the finish.and when they say they had a pro valeter on hand why did they not name him or her as i have known so called pro valeters say a car covered in railway fallout needs a total respray and never said the fallout could be taken away with clay.i dont know everything and have never claimed that at anytime i still have a lot to learn and im allways learning more about how i can gain the ultimate finish.but in my 17 years of detailing a wide range of cars bikes and helicopters .the products i have used in the past are no where near as good as what i use now we all learn by our mistakes .

as i have stated before look around see what other cars have been detailed with find out how easy it is to apply and what weather conditions does it work in best.

you may ask what products do i use well i have a selection of products on hand for different jobs but the products i can rely on are Mothers ,sonax ,3M ,ferecula ,zymol ,system8 and trafalgar chemicals.

martin
 


Listen to this Guy "topshopvaleting"

Martin Knows his products and speaks for a more "complete" products experience . Top Bloke as well.

P.S Martin - I Still Love Zymol - Dont hate me !;)

gotta say martin i wasnt impressed with Atlantique and vintage personally - maybe its just me but concours seemed better "value for money" in the zymol range.
 


172 fast one day you will see the light of MOTHERS:D.The zymol wax can be choosie about what paint its on to the effect you can get which i put down to there blending of the wax.concours is ok if you like that sort of thing lol but you can tell the difference to that of vintage on a car you will find higher clarity in the paint with vintage.but you cant beat the slickness of mothers wax topped with reflections lol now we are talking wow lol:cool:
 
  3 Series xdrive


Use autoglym super resin polish then use autoglym extra gloss protection, lasts for months and months, you can actually feel how smooth it makes the paintwork when your washing it again. Amazing stuff!!!!
 


A pure polish will actually feed/nourish your paintwork

A wax will simply protect and shine

A cheap polish autoglym included will slowly cut away at your paint as it contains abrasive agents.

I would imagine all of the products tested were called wax-polish or polish with wax - and to be avoided with a bargepole!
 


Quote: Originally posted by brazo on 05 August 2004


A pure polish will actually feed/nourish your paintwork

A wax will simply protect and shine

A cheap polish autoglym included will slowly cut away at your paint as it contains abrasive agents.

I would imagine all of the products tested were called wax-polish or polish with wax - and to be avoided with a bargepole!





but the autoglym extra gloss protection will not as its none abrasive, it even stats this if anyone cares to read the label or check out their website, i agree it might not be the very best you can get but it is good and does bring the car up well.

so unless they are doing about of false advertising which i doubt then not all autoglyms stuff are cutters, altho 2 are and this is also stated IF you read the labels
 


No matter what products you use on your car (not getting into this debate!), its mostly down to technique, if youre not applying and removing the wax/polish/glaze correctly etc then you may not get the result you were expecting.
 
  Corsa 1.3 CDTI


Personally on my new black car I use VANILLA MOOSE WAX HAND GLAZE to clean the paintwork off which also helps swirl marks that have been added from the Autoglym Super Resin Polish (Which I no longer use). I then seal the paint with Autoglym Super High gloss finish (Stuff in the white bottle with gold label on it, smells), after all that I then apply a finish of Concours Look Carnauba Paste Wax to seal the paintwork. I find it give a deep finish, no swirl marks and water just beeds off the paintwork even after 2 washes.

This is IMHO as it seems to work for me.
 


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