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Clio 172 bhp increase



  Renault Clio 172
No doubt this question has been asked before...but I couldn't find the answers I am looking for. I have a completely standard yr2000 Clio 172. I have had it for roughly one year and now feel the need for more bhp. What are the steps I need to take next to increase the standard engines output? Do new exhast systems and air intake/filter systems actually realease any more power? My thinking is that for a reasonable increase the first step will have to be an ECU re-map. Appreciate any advice on this.
Cheers
JY
 
  Chelsea tractor
No doubt this question has been asked before...but I couldn't find the answers I am looking for. I have a completely standard yr2000 Clio 172. I have had it for roughly one year and now feel the need for more bhp. What are the steps I need to take next to increase the standard engines output? Do new exhast systems and air intake/filter systems actually realease any more power? My thinking is that for a reasonable increase the first step will have to be an ECU re-map. Appreciate any advice on this.
Cheers
JY
Simple mods then a remap - otherwise it's a bit pointless ;)
 
  GDI'd Clio 182
the exhaust and intake wont do u much performance without the remap. I recommend the RS tuning remap, along with the exhaust and intake upgrade. But i also think the best intake is the standard box with a ITG panel filter. The ITG Maxogen kit is kinda expensive but if your willing to pay, its the best kit available for the Clios
 
  C-VXR, T8 Map 220BHP
ex system and good closed indction kit like IGT or BMC and remap will give you a good gain. anything more and your are getting into the ££££
 
  Renault Clio 172
ex system and good closed indction kit like IGT or BMC and remap will give you a good gain. anything more and your are getting into the ££££

Ok. Good stuff. So any ideas on where I can get a remap? I'm based up in NW England nr Manchester. How or what exactly does a re-map do? Do I need the new exhaust and intake systems to make the re-map effective?
 
  Cup Turbo, Flamer
Depends on your budget if you want to spend ££££'s or not! A decent exhaust system with a maxogen, bmc cda or similar plus remap you're looking at about 10-15bhp as a rough guess
 
  Renault Clio 172
ex system and good closed indction kit like IGT or BMC and remap will give you a good gain. anything more and your are getting into the ££££

Plus a decat. Decats make the most noticeable difference from my experience

When you say most noticeable what exacly changed. More top end power? Any ideas how much bhp? or just more grunt through the whole rev range? Does de-cating your car affect it getting through an MOT? i.e would I need to re-fit the cat to pass?
 
  Ph1
Plus a decat. Decats make the most noticeable difference from my experience

When you say most noticeable what exacly changed. More top end power? Any ideas how much bhp? or just more grunt through the whole rev range? Does de-cating your car affect it getting through an MOT? i.e would I need to re-fit the cat to pass?

Well when i first was in your position i got a Magnex full stainless exhaust system. It made no difference to performance what so ever and cost me 330 quid for the priviledge.

I then got a Pipercross Viper induction kit and it made a improved difference to acceleration.

But out those 2, the Janspeed decat made the biggest difference imo. Just accelerated better. Pulled really well plus i got a nice roar off it.

To map all that lot your car would pull well. Only down side you'll be talking in the region of roughly 800 - 1000 quid

Yeah you need to switch it come MOT time unless you know a friendly MOT tester :)
 
  Renault Clio 172
the exhaust and intake wont do u much performance without the remap. I recommend the RS tuning remap, along with the exhaust and intake upgrade. But i also think the best intake is the standard box with a ITG panel filter. The ITG Maxogen kit is kinda expensive but if your willing to pay, its the best kit available for the Clios


Do you have a link or any info on where I can look into the RS tuning remap, ehaust and intake upgrade?
 
  Monaco Blue 172
remaps can cost around £300 e.g. http://www.k-tecracing.com/chip_tuning.asp

am thinking along these lines myself, had mine for just over a year and now it's nearing 50k, it seems to have lost some of it's grunt. Or maybe I'm just used to it lol. Anyhoo I already got ITG panel replacement filter, and i'm planning an SS exhaust (catback, my conscience won't allow me to do otherwise), maybe do something with the cams and then a remap. when i can afford it!
 
  182 Turbo Project
Here is a pretty simple list for light mods.

Induction kit / Panel filter.
Matched inlets.
Decat / Sports cat.
Exhaust system.
RS Tuner / Live map (The latter not really worth it on these mods imo)

Then obviously you can spend more with modifications such as the JMS manifold, ITB's, Forced induction.

It all depends how much money you want to spend and what sort of power gains your after.
 
  53 Clio's & counting
It all falls down to your budget.

For a noticeable gain, and a generally well known good setup is as follows:

Panel filter (the ph1 172 airbox is a good design)
Cat back exhaust (You can remove the cat, but the ph1 cat does flow pretty well - if you rempve it it will be a lot louder)
Matched inlets (will fetch you 2-8ish bhp depending on how bad yours are now)
Custom remap

All this will set you back around £1000-£1200, and 'should' give you a genuine 180-185bhp.

Another thing to check is your cambelt. Check where it was changed, as unless it was done by a specialist, there is a good chance the timing may be out (You need specific locking tools to do the timing, most garages do not have these, and even renault can get it wrong) and if it is out, you will be down to 145-150bhp - a coorectly timed healthy standard 172 will have around 165-168bhp (the 172 is in PS,not bhp) so your increase to 180-185 would make a noticable (if not massive) increase, and will improve the way the car drives and will make it's power delivery smoother.

Next stage after that is 3 ways:

1. itb's
2. turbo/supercharger
3. JMS inlet manifold.

If you want more power than the level offered by the stage i listed above then leave the matched inlets etc and go straight to JMS - their inlet manifold conversion will give you 190bhp + for an outlay of £1800 odd and retains a lot of standard items - and very easy to return to standard - you can sell the kit on.

Next stage is itb's - these are around £2500 fitted, and will take power to around 200bhp and makes a great difference (talking from experience)

If you need more power then it's forced induction time - be prepared to spend big bucks though - you will need circa £3500+ to take you to around 230bhp, with scope for much bigger power.

Hope that helps
 
  182 Turbo Project
Engine Dynamics are doing a Turbo conversion fitted and mapped for £2800 if your on a budget.
 
Im intrested in the Engine Dynamics kit, especially in this deal http://www.engine-dynamics.com/epag...981_shop/Products/"Clio Sport Turbo Assembly"

seems verry cheap for everything you get with a turbo that pushes ''320'', the usual ''buy cheap buy twice'' comes to mind.

Can anyone advise me on this setup please? I will be sourcing the rest of the parts myself, just wondering if the turbo can push a safe 250hp? as the full turbo conversion they are offering says upto 230hp and 205tlbs.

can my standard ECU be mapped for this setup successfully to 250hp?

Am i right in needing the following parts if i sorced the rest myself and wanted to achive 250hp

Megane 225 injectors (blue label?)
intercooler
intercooler pipe work
suitable airfilter
spark plugs (turbo type?)
 
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  BMW E82 M Sport
Ok. Good stuff. So any ideas on where I can get a remap? I'm based up in NW England nr Manchester. How or what exactly does a re-map do? Do I need the new exhaust and intake systems to make the re-map effective?

Get your re-map done at RS Tuning in Leeds mate.
 


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