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Clio 182 AutoExpress Review



dk

  911 GTS Cab


Autoexpress have published a review of the 182:









Renault sport Clio 182 2.0 16v



There was a time when a small car with a three-figure power output could be considered a hot hatch. The Peugeot 205 GTi, for example, mustered a mere 115bhp from its 1.6-litre engine.
But times have changed. Today, a 115bhp 1.6 is considered normal, and hot hatches are punchier than ever in their quest for improved performance. When the Renaultsport Clio 172 debuted in 2000, it was regarded as the Clio Williams spiritual successor.
Its 172bhp was phenomenal for such a small car, and coupled to its entertaining handling and snappy short-ratio transmission, it was a drivers delight. For a while, the Clio was untouchable, but with models such as the MINI Cooper S Works and Peugeot 205 GTi 180 upping the ante and offering more than 180bhp, Renault has drafted in an extra 10 horses to keep the sporty Clio on the pace.
The power increase coincides with changes to the whole Clio range - not so much a facelift, as a tidy-up to keep it competitive until an all-new model appears late next year. Visual differences are limited, but are more noticeable on the 182. Fresh bumpers and a slightly different nose distinguish the new version, while the Sport gets exclusive graphite grey alloy wheels and twin chromed exhaust pipes.
Inside, the racy theme continues. The seats are covered in grey perforated Alcantara, with colour-coded belts, and are among the most comfortable and supportive of any performance car, let alone a souped-up supermini. The 182 also gets revised instruments with a new digital display located between the conventional dials.
The big news is under the bonnet. Using the original Clio 172s engine as a basis, Renaults engineers have modified the exhaust manifold to improve gas flow, allowing more efficient cylinder operation. Fuel-injection changes and a slightly different crank profile have also contributed to the power increase.
This is readily noticeable on the road. Although not hugely quicker than the car it replaces, the 182 has a smoother and more linear power delivery, and its much easier to maintain traction while pulling away quickly. Meanwhile, the suspension has been altered to give better comfort, without affecting the Clios legendary handling. The ride is less fidgety over bumpy surfaces, too, largely due to a longer wheelbase and wider track. Increased spring and damper rates give firmer suspension, and the set-up is further enhanced by stiffer anti-roll bars. The car also sits 20mm lower than the current machine. The result is awe-inspiring grip, and a chassis which can be exploited by even the most average of drivers.
Push the Clio 182 hard, and you will soon see its a force to be reckoned with. It still offers a heady mix of performance and balance that can shame many a proper sports car - yet at the same time its as useful as any standard Clio hatchback when it comes to getting the shopping in.

They also have some more pics on their website
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  EV (s)


Its not on the 182 thats a mistake.

the 2004 clios have it, but not the 182
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  EV (s)


No. and i dont think they drove it either.

that looks like the french pdf with a re word, and those photos are renault ones.
 
  Nippy white cup


Youve got to love these exclusive reviews that some mags/sites come up with!

Chris

P.S. Colour coded belts!?
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab


In the magazine it also states that there is a Light Weight (CUP?) version on its way (they must know something we dont, inside knowledge;))
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  EV (s)


Quote: Originally posted by dave182 on 21 January 2004

In the magazine it also states that there is a Light Weight (CUP?) version on its way (they must know something we dont, inside knowledge;))
LOL thats b****cks.

The 182 should only be on sale for 2 years at the most, not worth adding any more clios to the line up (as im sure Mr Townsend will confirm)
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab


on the website there is a pic of the yellow one with the normal silver wheels, it looks so much better with the anthracite ones! And that Yellow is really starting to grow on me!
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab


Quote: Originally posted by Tomclio182 on 21 January 2004


Its not on the 182 thats a mistake.

the 2004 clios have it, but not the 182
Thats a bit of a bummer, I was looking forward to that feature, thought it looked quite cool! Any idea why the 182 isnt getting it, cant think a good reason myself?
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  EV (s)


I can have you used digital gauges?

they are annoying, if you really want it the panels should be swappable
 


Looked in car mag at weekend and saw the 182 is slower to 60 than the Cup - enough said, dont care about it anymore - Cup is still the fastest 4/5 seater production Clio ever rolled off the line as standard.
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  EV (s)


Quote: Originally posted by swelch on 21 January 2004

Looked in car mag at weekend and saw the 182 is slower to 60 than the Cup - enough said, dont care about it anymore - Cup is still the fastest 4/5 seater production Clio ever rolled off the line as standard.
What car mag was that?
 


Cant remeber (didnt buy it) but it listed the Cup and the 182 but the 172 was not included so I imagine it is a pretty much up-to-date list.

top end was listed the same at 138 mph 0-60 was 7 I think, that is only 1 tenth less than the old 172 from what I remember. Im sure Evo will do it soon and quote sub 7 as otherwise what was the point of another 10 horses ?
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab


Quote: Originally posted by swelch on 21 January 2004

Looked in car mag at weekend and saw the 182 is slower to 60 than the Cup - enough said, dont care about it anymore - Cup is still the fastest 4/5 seater production Clio ever rolled off the line as standard.
Here we go, the same way all these posts seem to go! The only way this argument will be solved is for someone to do a straight line test and circuit of a track test between the 182 and cup, that will show who is boss! (and hopefully it will be a hot day and the 182 driver will be better poised with his climate controlled cabin!):cool:
 


Wow, 1 more - still more though.

Anyway all that aside:

Have you finished running in yet ?

How does it feel ?

and are you pleased with it ?

because at the end of the day that is all that really matters as it is down to personal choice.
 


Thought you may have wrangled one of the 1st one as you have changed your personal details.

Anyway Make sure you post your thoughts when you do get it. Any date yet ?
 
  Mk2 172


Is it really wider and longer than the current 172?

Or is that a mistake too?

(Still think they should have just put the meganne 225 engine in it)
 


All we want is someone like Mr. Clarkson to give us a decent comparison between the two...and race am head to head
 


Renaults engineers have modified the exhaust manifold to improve gas flow, allowing more efficient cylinder operation. Fuel-injection changes and a slightly different crank profile have also contributed to the power increase.

Err I though it was an ECU remap new exhaust and an intake manifold?

The car also sits 20mm lower than the current machine

What 20mm more than a 172 that 40mm lower than a normal dynamic is standard seems a bit much.

EDD
 


Quote: Originally posted by swelch on 21 January 2004

Looked in car mag at weekend and saw the 182 is slower to 60 than the Cup - enough said, dont care about it anymore - Cup is still the fastest 4/5 seater production Clio ever rolled off the line as standard.



On the road who ever gets the foot down first will win, can you imagine all the 182vs172vs cup threads that are coming are way :confused:
 


Personally I think the moderators should allow one big free for all post then close it and when ever someone asks a questions about 172vsCupvs182 they should close it and give them the link to the big thread. If not it will just get silly and create loads of posts exaclty the same and just cause silly arguments.
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  EV (s)


Quote: Originally posted by Elliot on 21 January 2004


Is it really wider and longer than the current 172?

Or is that a mistake too?

(Still think they should have just put the meganne 225 engine in it)





Yes it really is, i dont as that would make it unisnurable
Quote: Originally posted by edde on 21 January 2004





Renaults engineers have modified the exhaust manifold to improve gas flow, allowing more efficient cylinder operation. Fuel-injection changes and a slightly different crank profile have also contributed to the power increase.

Err I though it was an ECU remap new exhaust and an intake manifold?

No its all of the above

The car also sits 20mm lower than the current machine

What 20mm more than a 172 that 40mm lower than a normal dynamic is standard seems a bit much.

Not too sure on this the pictures suggest it is 20mm lower
 


Quote: On the road who ever gets the foot down first will win, can you imagine all the 182vs172vs cup threads that are coming are way :confused:[/QUOTE]


too true, out on the highway, fractions of a second count for nothing!!! getting yer foot down in the right gear with a decent driver will see a lesser car beat a more powerful car more times than not!!
 


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