Clio 200/220 high milage

[Ben perry]

Dunno if it’s been covered but I’m after a mk4 clio rs I’m probs at cheeper end of market budget wise is there anything concerning to worrie about like wet cambelt how good is the auto gearbox I see they run a dual clutch like (dsg) I guess I’m obvs not too worried if write off
Cheers again

 

[Sash]

Mines on 140k and only just showing signs of the clutch needing replacement if that helps.

it’s a chain driven engine fyi.

 

[Ben perry]

Thank you for your reply chains obvs are good for the milage unlike vag

 

[massivewangers]

Sorry to hijack, but are the gearboxes in these pretty good? Has there been any talk of failures with lots of launches etc?

 

[Ben perry]

Sorry to hijack, but are the gearboxes in these pretty good? Has there been any talk of failures with lots of launches etc?

I heard they are good and are made by getrac ??? Just I kno the clutch is abit pricy

 

[PP200t]

Fingers crossed the gearbox is made of better stuff than mk3 gearboxes! As above has said they are a getrag box.
only usual or common faults are the bottom radiator hose clip failing and the battery throwing issues when dying.

 

[massivewangers]

Interesting. Has anyone put really big power through one?

Are there any fixes for the clutch? Seen a few people comment about it .

 

[James]

Interesting. Has anyone put really big power through one?

Are there any fixes for the clutch? Seen a few people comment about it .

There's a few 280+ ones on hybrid turbos

@Ricardos

 

[PP200t]

I think they cap the torque to keep the box happy but there is a couple running 320 plus hp. Apparently (I think) the same person who created the hybrid turbo is having some updated clutch plates created.

 

[RSRowe]

Someone needs to put a mk4 box on a mk2 or mk3

 

[PP200t]

On the reliability side, the juke nismo uses the same engine and those have been tuned big time in America and have mega miles on them, so hopefully that’s a good sign.

 

[Ricardos]

320hp and 280ft/lbs, I think mileage is around high 70k and has been hybrid a few years all on a std clutch pack

 

[Ricardos]

Someone needs to put a mk4 box on a mk2 or mk3

And to think this was one of the main reasons the Mk4 was panned when it came out

I'd say drop the whole lot in a mk2 or 3, it's been done, and again to think you're seeing 300hp with a hybrid, a curve ball to the usual 'Megclio' efforts

 

[massivewangers]

I think they cap the torque to keep the box happy but there is a couple running 320 plus hp. Apparently (I think) the same person who created the hybrid turbo is having some updated clutch plates created.

That would be interesting to see. Is it just that the friction material isn't up to the job?

Would be cool to see a few more highly modified ones, as there aren't many on here.

 

[PP200t]

That would be interesting to see. Is it just that the friction material isn't up to the job?

Would be cool to see a few more highly modified ones, as there aren't many on here.

I’m really not sure, just that it was uprated, whatever that means. It’s a guy on the faceache group, but I’m sure that @Ricardos new car was his.

 

[RSRowe]

And to think this was one of the main reasons the Mk4 was panned when it came out

I'd say drop the whole lot in a mk2 or 3, it's been done, and again to think you're seeing 300hp with a hybrid, a curve ball to the usual 'Megclio' efforts

Could do. I just like the idea of an n/a 2 or 3 with the 4 gearbox.

 

[PP200t]

I know people have mated the vw 6 speed gearbox to a 182 (I’m sure) so wonder if a dsg could be adapted? Doubt the clio 4 gearbox would mate to the f4r engine. Anything is possible though.

 

[RSRowe]

Yeah they’re completely different bolt pattern wise. But someone with a big brain could definitely sort an adapter

 

[DaveL485]

I know people have mated the vw 6 speed gearbox to a 182 (I’m sure) so wonder if a dsg could be adapted? Doubt the clio 4 gearbox would mate to the f4r engine. Anything is possible though.

It's not just the mechanical mating, thats the easy part, you just have to get torque to the input shaft. getting the electronics working would be an epic task, because the DSG systems take input from many other parts of the car. Lets take some simple ones, engine speed, road speed, torque demand, throttle postion. How do you feed that in to the VW DSG controller from a Renault engine management system? It wont even be a case of wiring either, as a lot of it will be CAN I suspect.
You would need a completely standalone DSG controller of some sort. I don't even know if thats a thing. Every DSG conversion I recall seeing included the native engine and control systems.

 

[massivewangers]

It's not just the mechanical mating, thats the easy part, you just have to get torque to the input shaft. getting the electronics working would be an epic task, because the DSG systems take input from many other parts of the car. Lets take some simple ones, engine speed, road speed, torque demand, throttle postion. How do you feed that in to the VW DSG controller from a Renault engine management system? It wont even be a case of wiring either, as a lot of it will be CAN I suspect.
You would need a completely standalone DSG controller of some sort. I don't even know if thats a thing. Every DSG conversion I recall seeing included the native engine and control systems.

I believe there is a guy in eastern Europe somewhere doing DSG controllers now, as a few people are starting to fit the 'boxes into other cars. I saw an off-the-shelf adaptor kit to fit one into a Corsa VXR on eBay a while back.