Clio 200 - the lack of a jack.

[Da]

Now I know the jack is removed when you spec the cup chassis, but what is the real reasoning behind this? I mean I have all the other parts - wheel brace etc - but no jack.

Also, how are you meant to inflate the tyre with tyre foam if you can't jack up the car in the first place? :S

 

[Gaz_]

Exactly. I suggest you go to Renault with the handbook, which iirc says to jack car up before inflating, then ask them what to do if you have no jack

 

[Da]

I might just phone my dealer and tell them they forgot to put one in - you never know they might just hand one over.

 

[ant_r27]

I might just phone my dealer and tell them they forgot to put one in - you never know they might just hand one over.

To be fair, back when I had a 197, I heard of quite a few owners who kicked off and the dealers just gave them a jack rather than bother arguing.

 

[roystinho]

Renault say it's weight saving on cup/cup chassis!!! If you get a sport it comes with it!!

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Its absurd if thats the reason, saying that, the tyre foam things nonsense aswell

 

[Da]

Weight saving has to be a joke??

I figured it was because the chassis was so stiff.

 

[Jonny1*2]

lol no jack for weight saving. Must just be a mistake mate. Incedentally, not sure if you need a jack before you use tyre foam

 

[ForceIndia]

Could be wrong, I thought the jack didn't fit under the lower cup chassis? I've got a jack.
I don't think you have to jack it up to use the foam though.

 

[Sargara]

Has anyone tried putting a jack under the 200 cup, does it fit?

 

[Da]

I can't see there being an issue, it's only mm's lower than the standard 200 isn't it?

 

[AdsDori]

I complained to the dealer and they just gave me one. I think it even says in the options book at the dealer that the 200 comes with a jack, but the 200 cup does not.

 

[Da]

Oh yeah I'm aware it doesn't come with one, and always have been, I was just curious as to Renault's reasoning behind it?

 

[roystinho]

RUK said the jack wasn't approved with the cup chassis. No reason why though

 

[Da]

Thanks, well I've emailed Jeremy so hopefully he can shed some light on the issue.

 

[Da]

Well, it's official, the chassis is too stiff -

It's not fitted because the Cup chassis is so stiff that jacking the front or rear of the car will also raise both wheels in the air. Therefore, unless the opposite wheels are secured (with a block or such), there's a risk that the car could move and topple off the jack.

Not really sure where that leaves us with the tyre foam.

 

[Gaz_]

Lol at the chassis. Springs/arbs more like. I've jacked all my Clios up fitted with coilovers lol

 

[KMB]

I asked for one after pointing out the stupidity, they provided...

 

[DazBav]

Has anyone tried putting a jack under the 200 cup, does it fit?

Yes it does fit,i have the 200 with cup chassis and used the jack that was with my standard 197

 

[Da]

I asked for one after pointing out the stupidity, they provided...

I'm going to try that myself this weekend.

 

[Marky_]

Aren't you worried about it rolling over like a tortoise?

 

[Treza360]

Hi all,
If someone has one of the jacks that fit in the boots space could you please let me know the part number off of it, so I can organise one through my sources. Dealers here in Australia want $180 AUD for one (103 GBP)!
Cheers.

 

[fUbAr]

My 182 did the same when using the front jacking point... the rear wheel would lift too.

Pretty sure the Ph1 172 did it, too.

 

[Da]

Hi all,
If someone has one of the jacks that fit in the boots space could you please let me know the part number off of it, so I can organise one through my sources. Dealers here in Australia want $180 AUD for one (103 GBP)!
Cheers.

I am (hopefully) getting one from my dealer so I will let you know once I receive it.


Oh and yeah, my 182 'cocked' too whenever I jacked it up. I don't think it's a new thing, just another way of Renault keeping costs down.

 

[Jimbo-Clio]

My 182 did the same when using the front jacking point... the rear wheel would lift too.

Pretty sure the Ph1 172 did it, too.

PH1 Does do it badly mines on apex springs and shocks though and yes before anyone does ask the ride is s**t!

 

[16valver50]

^^^^^^^
my mk1 1.8 16v does it aswell.lifts back wheel when jacking front.

 

[Jimbo-Clio]

Back on the subject i would jack a 200 cup anyday of the week i doubt even with quite a substancial push would it tople tbh. Why dnt you buy a small trolly jack and a cargo harness/net of somekind renault jacks are pish

 

[Treza360]

Anyone got one and can supply the part number please?
Cheers.

 

[LEEMJONES]

8200 386 374

 

[Treza360]

8200 386 374

Thanks mate. Much appreciated.
Cheers.

 

[l0rd]

Hi, I am new to the forum and i will give my go to why they didn't supply a jack with the car.

I believe that the car is so stiff that a normal automotive jack might not be strong enough to lift it. Normally when you lift a car, the oposite diagonal suspension is compressing. If the springs on the car are so stiff that doesn't allow for that much compression, you will need to be actually lifting all the vehicle. Now, quite a few jacks have been mentioned to give away while the car is lifted because of material weaknesses.

There, i said it.

Didn't say that it will make sence