Kis 172 - I agree - I think alot of 172 owners will infact notice a conside4rable differnce - it amuses me when they say - its just a 172 without leather - its a lot more than that me thinks - Id call it a refined 172 without leather - if i wanted leather id have bought a jag or rip it out of me present car along the with aircon, blah de blah de blah ........................but the colour is great and unique Im glad to hear.....