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Confused about tyre prices



  Cio 172 Cup,Porsche
Rainsport 3 gripped really well on the front of my diesel Focus DD, but they only lasted a surprisingly low mileage. Reverted to Vredestein Sportrac 5 which I had before.
 
  mk1 Octavia VRS
Hankook Ventus S1 Evo are a similar price to the Toyos and probably a better option. I have a pair on my road wheels and have run a pair on my Octavia and they performed well in all conditions and lasted well.
 
  PH2 172
Rainsport 3 gripped really well on the front of my diesel Focus DD, but they only lasted a surprisingly low mileage. Reverted to Vredestein Sportrac 5 which I had before.
What is a suprisingly low mileage??
More grip,=more confidence,=more wear.
Sportrac 5 has B wet rating,reflect on that when your upside down in a ditch.No thanks.
 
  Cio 172 Cup,Porsche
DD Rainsport 3 low mileage is under10K, Vredesteins do at least 25K.I drive 30K per year in the Focus. Wet braking is a definite important consideration when selecting tyres, and I have used Vredestein tyres for that reason (because they used to annually win the AutoExpress tyre tests particularly in the wet braking sector) for the 175,000 miles that I have done in that car.
Bought the Rainsport3 as a result of recommendations on here when the Vredestein Sportrac 5 were temporarily out of stock. They do inspire confidence, no doubt, and it isnt rocket science that more grip =more wear.
 
  PH2 172
DD Rainsport 3 low mileage is under10K, Vredesteins do at least 25K.I drive 30K per year in the Focus. Wet braking is a definite important consideration when selecting tyres, and I have used Vredestein tyres for that reason (because they used to annually win the AutoExpress tyre tests particularly in the wet braking sector) for the 175,000 miles that I have done in that car.
Bought the Rainsport3 as a result of recommendations on here when the Vredestein Sportrac 5 were temporarily out of stock. They do inspire confidence, no doubt, and it isnt rocket science that more grip =more wear.
Fair enough,as I only drive 10k miles a year,I`m happy with a fronts 10k lifespan in exchange for superior grip.
If I drove 30k a year,I might reconsider my choice`s.
AutoExpress reviews are interesting in that Michelin PS3`s dont even get a mention?
 
  PH2 172
lol having a B grip wet grade will mean you end up in a ditch.

The ratings are utterly pointless imo.

The noise rating is pretty acedemic in a Clio with a Ktec exhaust & decat.Got to be wet grip A for me to buy though.
 
  Clio 172, Escort RST
Yeah some garages take the piss - they want your custom of the tyres themselves too, so charge a fortune in fitting to make up for it. I got charged £15/wheel and that was the cheapest in about 8 garages I rang around by me!

As Dave says, £10 or under per wheel is a decent price.

Depends ;).

MyTyres will tend to buy the tyres in bulk from the suppliers with very minimal storage costs. I would be willing to bet that the overheads for a tyre shop are considerably higher relatively speaking ; that said you can get a great deal by shopping around.

£15-20 seems to be the going rate for a tyre swap here ; I'd probably only trust a few people to do the job though ; it seems people are incapable of balancing wheels!

Avon ZZ5's ? they 'seem' like a good Tyre from what i've read. 'A' wet rating too.

As said the ratings are purely academic and useless. As for the Avons, some people rate the ZZ5s ; I have found the ZZ3s and ZV3s to be appaling in the wet ; I'd trust riding a prossie bareback a safer bet than driving with those wretched things.

The noise rating is pretty acedemic in a Clio with a Ktec exhaust & decat.Got to be wet grip A for me to buy though.

That IMHO is a silly thing ; the ratings are completely meaningless. To put it into perspective ;

A Mondeo we had went through a number of tyres in the 100k mileage period we owned it for. The Michelins had a treadwear rating of 100 with the Vredestein Sentracs having a rating of 300 and a better wet grip rating. I know which tyre lasted twice and long and gripped better in the wet despite a bellend of a mate driving it speedier than I thought in the wet, and it was not the Vredestein ;).
 

MarkCup

ClioSport Club Member
I can vouch for the noise ratings.

Most tyres are in the 69-74db range. Getting four tyres for my Scenic recently I went for some Khumo tyres with a rating of 67db, the lowest noise rating I could find for any tyre.

The result?

Almost absolute and total silence at any speed on any surface. Compared to the Dunlops I had before it's night and day. Remarkable.
 
  Clio 172, Escort RST
I can vouch for the noise ratings.

Most tyres are in the 69-74db range. Getting four tyres for my Scenic recently I went for some Khumo tyres with a rating of 67db, the lowest noise rating I could find for any tyre.

The result?

Almost absolute and total silence at any speed on any surface. Compared to the Dunlops I had before it's night and day. Remarkable.

Tyre wear can make a tyre very noisy as can tyre age. A friend of mine had a strange noise from the rear of his Passat. He simply stuck with the same tyre (new of course) when he replaced the rears and this time had the geometry of the car checked (it was wearing the tyres funny). It was the difference between being quite and not.

Maybe it did work in your case, but the ratings seem to be purely academic IME. The Nankang NS-2Rs are meant to be as quiet as the Michelins on my sister's car going by the ratings ; both are 72dB which is laughable on a track based tyre. I can assure you they are not as quiet, but I was not expecting them to be either.

It is horses for courses with this matter.
 
  Listerine & Poledo
All T1-Rs did for me was collapse their own sidewalls at the first sign of a corner.

Rainsports...or a "proper" tyre, like a Conti, Michelin or Goodyear.

Buy cheap, buy another car when the road goes slippy and your talent doesn't extend as far as you may like to think.
 
  Ph1 172.
I've had nakang ns2's when I've purchased a new car, they were rubbish.

I've had Toyo T1R's they were okay, soft but not very good in the wet.

I've had Uniroyal Rainsports 2 and 3 and they were decent. Great in the wet, cheap in 15". The only real downside is they aren't the hardest wearing, but performance wise they more than make up for this.
 
  Clio 172, Escort RST
Personally, if road noise is not an issue I would be tempted to go with Nankang NS-2Rs ; they have given the chassis more grip on the RST than I thought it could have. I am thinking about it on the Clio but it is a daily... It will probably be Michelin PS3s, Goodyear EfficientGrip Performances or ContiSport 3s (on the front ATM) that go on when I come to changing them if I stick to 195/45R16 on the Turinis. If I go to 205s then it probably would be the NS-Rs or the PS3s (but only just).

Yes, I am a fan of the NS-2Rs. Even if the RST was 0.1 of a second slower up the 1/4 mile with them on, although it wheelspins less than it did on the Toyo T1-Ss that came off ; that may be an LSD issue however or the lack of one with 225BHP.
 


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