Renault Clio 4, 2016
hello all - dont whether this kind of chat is allowed on cliosport.net but its about modding the ECU 's of the Renault Clio Mk4 with DDT4all software . -if its not allowed please feel free to delete it mods.
for those that haven't heard of DDT4ALL its very powerful software to change certain parameters with an ODBII Reader (wifi/bluetooth/wired ELM327) on Renault (& Dacia) cars and most probably some other makes as well. as I say, very powerful - so much so that if you dont know what you are doing you can change something (even accidentally) that may break your car, corrupt ECU 's that control anything on the car from engine management, engine sensors, lighting, locking/security, brakes and airbags...even wipers!
So if your a novice and dont have a clue how it all works then maybe it would be best to not make any changes to your car with the software.
Well, I am far from an expert but I have been trying it out since we bought our car this year. Our Clio is a Clio Mk4 1149cc 16v Dyaminique mediaNav edition 2016 and here is a list of some features I have enabled and some things I have managed to disable /changed on the car since we have it:
* Clock & outdoor temperature showing in info panel above speedo digit. - originally on a lot of Mk4 Clio's , if the car is equipped with a large screen medianav radio in the dash they have omitted the clock and outdoor temperature in the info window above the speedo digit. But it is quite handy to have the clock and the temperature there and just to glance down to it when driving rather than look over to the media-nav.
* Rear Tail lights lit with DRL lights on - normally when the DRL Lights are on the rear tail lights are not lit.
* changed the speedo digit from Km/h to mph - now for UK Clio owners thats not a problem , because on UK Clio's you could change the speedo freely between miles per hour and kilometers per hour with a button press of the start button and trip computer button on the wiper stalk frequently back and forth from mph to km/h ... however on continenatal and european models where the speed came from the factory in km/h as standard the button trick does not work to change it to mph.
* Always Keyless entry: have it so that at all times the car opens up without having to get the keycard out of your pocket or bag. In the normal course of things the Clio mk4 will unlock the car when it detects the keycard in the area of the drivers door .... but until you manually use the door lock button on the keycard .. and then you have temporarily 'dasbled' keyless entry until next time you start the car engine which resets keyless entry again.
* no longer have to press clutch or brake to start the engine. Only just done this recently so jury is still out, and some people may think that not safe and that you could start up car when its in gear .. well you could, but ever since I have passed my test I have been taught to make sure gears are in neutral and handbrake on and thats the habit I am in to . Maybe if you have children in car and if you have your keycard in your pocket or inside the car it might not be good to programme the car to start up without the driver having to press the clutch or brake though!
* remotely Turn on headlights of car with the keycard bulb symbol: Normally when you press the light bulb symbol on the keycard (on clio models without LED headlights anyway) the only thing that button does is turn on your interior ceiling lamps, pretty pointless I found. so now I have programmed it to turn on the headlghts instead - much handier at night now if you are trying to find your car in a dark car park (or front door keys to the house) on a dark drive, once you press the button on the keycard the headlights should stay on for approximately 20-30seconds and then go out - (be careful setting this setting because your lighting ECU should be at SW14 or higher or you could break your lights)
* follow me home lights: Not all Clios come with this but when you pull up the drive and turn off the engine you can pull the headlamp beam stalk on the steering wheel and the headlamps will stay on for approx 30seconds for each pull of the headlight beam flasher stalk
*Disabled Hill Start Assist feature (HSA)
I think thats what I have changed successfully at the moment with DDT4ALL - if there are any other settings I can think of I will update this post. Also if anyone is brave/stupid enough LOL to give DDT4ALL a try out on their car and get stuck on something ask here and I see if I can help you get past it. But as I say its not a thing for a novice to attempt , if you are absolute technophobe or dont know anything about programming stuff or know how to put it right if something goes wrong you are most probably better off just leaving it alone because with this software and what it could change you might not get your car started again or have to have ECU 's re-programmed by renault and thats not cheap , I would hate for that to happen to you.
Can I just ask if someone else is using or has used DDT4ALL in the past on their Clio and have found another feature that they have enabled / disabled and I haven't listed it here can they share the info please?
Here are a couple of things i am specifically looking to do but have no joy yet so if you have successfully done it with DDT4all can you let me know please? :
* I cannot get the 'welcome & Goodbye' headlight feature working on my car. This is the setting where the headlights are supposed to turn on automatically when you unlock the car - I have set the settings in DDT4all from '0' to '1' in the welcome and goodbye setting in the lighting ECU (I have SW15) and even after that the welcome & Goodbye feature does not seem to work.
* I am looking to see if the engine idling revs when engine warm, can be adjusted with DDT4all and see if someone has done it sucessfully? - I can read the parameters with DDT4all and it says the engine is idling at around 650rpm with no lights , heater blower, wipers etc and its reporting the 'idle set point' at 650rpm, and I want to try bump that idle revs up a little if I can with DDT4all and cannot find the settings to do that, maybe DDT4all is not capable? - but if you have managed to find the settings for Idle Set Point in DDT4all can you let me know please?
Thanks for reading and as I say if there is any help I can offer and if I am around i will be happy to answer any questions that I can.
Good luck, and dont forget be extra careful if you are going to try it out yourself.
for those that haven't heard of DDT4ALL its very powerful software to change certain parameters with an ODBII Reader (wifi/bluetooth/wired ELM327) on Renault (& Dacia) cars and most probably some other makes as well. as I say, very powerful - so much so that if you dont know what you are doing you can change something (even accidentally) that may break your car, corrupt ECU 's that control anything on the car from engine management, engine sensors, lighting, locking/security, brakes and airbags...even wipers!
So if your a novice and dont have a clue how it all works then maybe it would be best to not make any changes to your car with the software.
Well, I am far from an expert but I have been trying it out since we bought our car this year. Our Clio is a Clio Mk4 1149cc 16v Dyaminique mediaNav edition 2016 and here is a list of some features I have enabled and some things I have managed to disable /changed on the car since we have it:
* Clock & outdoor temperature showing in info panel above speedo digit. - originally on a lot of Mk4 Clio's , if the car is equipped with a large screen medianav radio in the dash they have omitted the clock and outdoor temperature in the info window above the speedo digit. But it is quite handy to have the clock and the temperature there and just to glance down to it when driving rather than look over to the media-nav.
* Rear Tail lights lit with DRL lights on - normally when the DRL Lights are on the rear tail lights are not lit.
* changed the speedo digit from Km/h to mph - now for UK Clio owners thats not a problem , because on UK Clio's you could change the speedo freely between miles per hour and kilometers per hour with a button press of the start button and trip computer button on the wiper stalk frequently back and forth from mph to km/h ... however on continenatal and european models where the speed came from the factory in km/h as standard the button trick does not work to change it to mph.
* Always Keyless entry: have it so that at all times the car opens up without having to get the keycard out of your pocket or bag. In the normal course of things the Clio mk4 will unlock the car when it detects the keycard in the area of the drivers door .... but until you manually use the door lock button on the keycard .. and then you have temporarily 'dasbled' keyless entry until next time you start the car engine which resets keyless entry again.
* no longer have to press clutch or brake to start the engine. Only just done this recently so jury is still out, and some people may think that not safe and that you could start up car when its in gear .. well you could, but ever since I have passed my test I have been taught to make sure gears are in neutral and handbrake on and thats the habit I am in to . Maybe if you have children in car and if you have your keycard in your pocket or inside the car it might not be good to programme the car to start up without the driver having to press the clutch or brake though!
* remotely Turn on headlights of car with the keycard bulb symbol: Normally when you press the light bulb symbol on the keycard (on clio models without LED headlights anyway) the only thing that button does is turn on your interior ceiling lamps, pretty pointless I found. so now I have programmed it to turn on the headlghts instead - much handier at night now if you are trying to find your car in a dark car park (or front door keys to the house) on a dark drive, once you press the button on the keycard the headlights should stay on for approximately 20-30seconds and then go out - (be careful setting this setting because your lighting ECU should be at SW14 or higher or you could break your lights)
* follow me home lights: Not all Clios come with this but when you pull up the drive and turn off the engine you can pull the headlamp beam stalk on the steering wheel and the headlamps will stay on for approx 30seconds for each pull of the headlight beam flasher stalk
*Disabled Hill Start Assist feature (HSA)
I think thats what I have changed successfully at the moment with DDT4ALL - if there are any other settings I can think of I will update this post. Also if anyone is brave/stupid enough LOL to give DDT4ALL a try out on their car and get stuck on something ask here and I see if I can help you get past it. But as I say its not a thing for a novice to attempt , if you are absolute technophobe or dont know anything about programming stuff or know how to put it right if something goes wrong you are most probably better off just leaving it alone because with this software and what it could change you might not get your car started again or have to have ECU 's re-programmed by renault and thats not cheap , I would hate for that to happen to you.
Can I just ask if someone else is using or has used DDT4ALL in the past on their Clio and have found another feature that they have enabled / disabled and I haven't listed it here can they share the info please?
Here are a couple of things i am specifically looking to do but have no joy yet so if you have successfully done it with DDT4all can you let me know please? :
* I cannot get the 'welcome & Goodbye' headlight feature working on my car. This is the setting where the headlights are supposed to turn on automatically when you unlock the car - I have set the settings in DDT4all from '0' to '1' in the welcome and goodbye setting in the lighting ECU (I have SW15) and even after that the welcome & Goodbye feature does not seem to work.
* I am looking to see if the engine idling revs when engine warm, can be adjusted with DDT4all and see if someone has done it sucessfully? - I can read the parameters with DDT4all and it says the engine is idling at around 650rpm with no lights , heater blower, wipers etc and its reporting the 'idle set point' at 650rpm, and I want to try bump that idle revs up a little if I can with DDT4all and cannot find the settings to do that, maybe DDT4all is not capable? - but if you have managed to find the settings for Idle Set Point in DDT4all can you let me know please?
Thanks for reading and as I say if there is any help I can offer and if I am around i will be happy to answer any questions that I can.
Good luck, and dont forget be extra careful if you are going to try it out yourself.