I wouldn't trust a £100 server to run anything
I wouldn't trust a £100 server to run anything
Except once you add vat and delivery its £174, which isnt such a steal....still a good price but not quite £99....
Except once you add vat and delivery its £174, which isnt such a steal....still a good price but not quite £99....
There's a reason why it's £99
Dell Servers are gash
what do you both use HP ?
we have lots of customers on blades without san mate, you can get 4 hot plug SAS drives in a blade, or use a storage blade that holds 6 drives or a NAS blade to share storage, lots of options to use blades without SAN!blades are great if you already have a san if you dont they arnt much use lol
im trying to get my boss to buy me a hp san or at least datacore so i can make a san my self
after all its only a pc with a bunch of disks
LOL, a SAN is a bit more than that mate, you couldn't build one yourself, other wise its just a NAS.blades are great if you already have a san if you dont they arnt much use lol
im trying to get my boss to buy me a hp san or at least datacore so i can make a san my self
after all its only a pc with a bunch of disks
There's a reason why it's £99
Dell Servers are gash
never had an issue with them and i have 7 of them at the mo and 4 of them have been running since 99 !!
LOL, a SAN is a bit more than that mate, you couldn't build one yourself, other wise its just a NAS.blades are great if you already have a san if you dont they arnt much use lol
im trying to get my boss to buy me a hp san or at least datacore so i can make a san my self
after all its only a pc with a bunch of disks
SAN uses a fabric, so FC switches and to plug into those you need FC controllers attached to disks and if you want a proper san they will be FC disks too so its FC all the way through.
But then HP have a new SAN coming out and thats going to be a great mid market product!
blades are great if you already have a san if you dont they arnt much use lol
im trying to get my boss to buy me a hp san or at least datacore so i can make a san my self
after all its only a pc with a bunch of disks
amen
Just wondering how many servers you've both worked with?
We bought a few Dell Poweredge 2950 recently and have a whole line of other stuff, also got a load of HP servers here.
Dell are OK for most applications, only thing which lets them down is their firmware...lots of errors in it.
you sure they run windows, i'm an EMC systems engineer and I must say I have not come across that before.LOL, a SAN is a bit more than that mate, you couldn't build one yourself, other wise its just a NAS.
SAN uses a fabric, so FC switches and to plug into those you need FC controllers attached to disks and if you want a proper san they will be FC disks too so its FC all the way through.
But then HP have a new SAN coming out and thats going to be a great mid market product!
emc sans do you know what OS they run ?? windows
you can build a san easy enough as the controller is just a pc running an os with control software on it (the bit that costs the money)
the bunch of discs i mention would obviously be a drive cage running any drive type you wish there is no point at all going for fc for everything
http://www.datacore.com/ is a great bit of software that allows you to use different types of san or storage solution to present it to the host machine as direct attached the best bit about it is you can use anyones hardware unlike hp or emc
amen
Just wondering how many servers you've both worked with?
We bought a few Dell Poweredge 2950 recently and have a whole line of other stuff, also got a load of HP servers here.
Dell are OK for most applications, only thing which lets them down is their firmware...lots of errors in it.
they still are offering a free processor and double memory this monthJust wondering how many servers you've both worked with?
We bought a few Dell Poweredge 2950 recently and have a whole line of other stuff, also got a load of HP servers here.
Dell are OK for most applications, only thing which lets them down is their firmware...lots of errors in it.
I dislike Dell servers, and I work with far too many of the damned things. Our Citrix farm consists of 25 1855 Blades (the only decent Dells we have), 20 1650s, we've got another 40 1650s performing other tasks and around 10-15 1750s. We've got two EMC/Clariion SANs (one just ditched) with 2850 head units, to go with that we've got 2 6600s, 10 2500s, 4 2600s and 3 2900s, 2 860s IIRC and 2 750s running a web interface. Got a PV220S around somewhere too.
I hate them all, they're much more difficult to work with than the HP stuff I'm used to (and thankfully we're now getting):
35x DL140G3s, dual quad core 1.8s with 4gb memory
1x DL140G3, dual quad and 8gb memory
10x DL360G5 dual quad 2ghz and 4gb memory
HP EVA with 4 shelves, and currently 4x300Gb FC disks in each
6x DL380s dual quad 2.33 and 4gb memory in each.
Much better! As for EMC SANs running Windows etc, that's bull. There's a lot more to SANs than meets the eye, just setting one up shows you that.
And as cheap servers go, you've all just missed a steal - HP were offering free processors and memory a month or two back - dual quad core DL140G3 with 4gb memory and two 80Gb HDDs for £650+VAT delivered... Only one power supply but for none-critical or load-balanced solutions they're perfect.
be interested to know what you are buying there as there is not such server as a ML105 and thats too cheap for HP, their cheapest is a about £175 at the mo, so its either reconditioned or grey i'm guessing?at the moment i am able to get HP ML105's with 1gb of memory, 160gb hdd, and dual core xeon, all for £100.
and i thought i was a geek, exchange in the home, thats crazy!Hmm, temping would make a nice replacement for my exhange server at home (don't ask) got to be better than a P3 733 no it doesn't take that much load .
and i thought i was a geek, exchange in the home, thats crazy!Hmm, temping would make a nice replacement for my exhange server at home (don't ask) got to be better than a P3 733 no it doesn't take that much load .
tbh if i wanted to run an exchange server at home i would just run a vmware machine with server 2003, not worth running a totally separate machine.