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[16V F7R]

Hi all, I am looking at parts for my Valver on Autodoc and it says they fit. In The list of parts there is clearly different types of the same part yet it says they all fit. I want to check part numbers but then I cannot find a parts diagrams online with part numbers to double check that. Is there Valver dialogys on here somewhere?

 

[16v_paddy]

You want to click on C57D for the Valver or C57M for the Williams

Clio (phase 1 & 2) - Catcar.info

 

[16V F7R]

Thanks for your help Paddy. I Have scrolled to the bottom on Autodoc and matched up the OE part numbers 👍

With the rocker covers being the same on F7P and F7R shall I go for a fibre composite one I can see listed on autodoc or a normal one?

Also are inlet manifold and exhaust manifold gaskets the same on F7P to F7R’s?

 

[16v_paddy]

You can easily just use a cereal box for that rocker gasket tbh 🤣 it wont matter what you choose
Parts wise, the F7P & Clio F7R are pretty much identical apart from the sump pan, crank, pistons, cams and the valves

The spanner in the works is that the Megane F7R is half identical and half completely different in the early versions and later versions are even more different so some listings for stuff can be hit & miss but as a general rule of thumb if a part is listed as fitting the F7P it will deffo fit on the Williams engine

Just as a heads up in case you need some, cam seals are a bit of a swine as there are 2 different sizes, 40mm & 42mm internal diameter and both sizes were fitted to both engines including the Megane ones so any listing saying which they fit to can't be trusted so it's worth looking at and making a note of the markings on yours so you know what they are in case you have to buy any in the future

 

[16V F7R]

Would you buy new wishbones with bearings already in or powder coat my existing wishbones and fit Powerflex bushes? Only road use for me and may do the occasional track day eventually. Is the correct tightening torque figures on that cat car site somewhere as well?

 

[16v_paddy]

Depends what wishbones you're using tbh, if they're Williams, new ones don't really exist so refreshing them is certainly the best option.
If they're Valver arms then I'd personally just get new ones as they're readily available & not obscenely priced as they were also used on the lower spec Mk2's
If they're 172 arms it's a coin toss really, there's no real advantage or disadvantage in getting new ones unless you really want poly bushes

All you get on catcar is the drawings & part numbers so no torque settings on there but I've always just done the wishbone bolts & nuts FT with a breaker bar

 

[16V F7R]

Cheers for the info again mate. Yes these wishbone bolts were FT. 30 year old FT. My hands are killing from the other night turning the nuts off bit by bit with my breaker bar and ratchet. Got them off with no cutting like the subframe bolts aswell 👍.

Where do you get new wishbone bolts from? Not sure if the valver wishbones are going to come with them?

Also @Yarp has subframe bolts still for sale but we are not sure if valver ones are the same as mk2’s… I was going to measure mine this weekend but thought I’d ask again. TIA