"Diving" on roundabouts

[Tigger]

Comming home from a meet on Sunday, I came off the motorway and around the roundabout towards town...

As I went around the roundabout, the car seemed to dive towards the front left more than it normaly would (even if you had std suspension) I was doing about 25-30ish at the time.

I've had Sportline springs fitted since end of October, and running on Toyo T1-R's

At first I thought the tyres were soft but they're fine, I had checked threads & pressures the previous day :S

Is this any-way normal?

 

[fUbAr]

are you talking about body roll?

 

[Ad172UK]

My 206 used to do this, it turned out to be a knackered ball joint on that.

Just a thought.

 

[Budgie]

I wouldn't worry unless it happens more than once or twice.

My money's on a slippery patch of road or something trivial.

 

[Tigger]

are you talking about body roll?

Yeah, more than normal especialy with sportlines fitted

I wouldn't worry unless it happens more than once or twice.

My money's on a slippery patch of road or something trivial.

Roads on Sunday were pretty greasy to be fair

 

[Cup ov Ste 53]

It a common problem with FWD cars.
Its called understeer !!!! lol lol

 

[Dangerous_dave]

^^ haha

 

[Tigger]

It a common problem with FWD cars.
Its called understeer !!!! lol lol

:lolup:
Owned!
Took a spirited drive today and all was fine

 

[Harry_manback]

push down on top of both wheel arches, if the passenger side seems really soft its probably a shock absober gone boom.

thats what was up with mine.

 

[Tucker]

errrrm silly question, but did you:

A. have the car in gear

B. just throw it into the corner with no accelerator and power out?

 

[Tigger]

^
A. Of course, 2nd gear
B. No, was accelerating between 25-30ish at the time as you come off that roundabout into a 50 zone

 

[Tigger]

Quick question on the cornering subject;

What's wrong when you are coming around a long sweeping corner at 50mph, and your opposite tyre is rumbling? :S
(front right tyre on a left bend & vice-versa)

 

[Cro]

Either sounds like its not finding grip or the ball joints etc. Did you check for leaky shocks?

 

[Tigger]

Not yet mate, will check in the morning

 

[Tigger]

All seems fine! :S

 

[Tigger]

Another few spirited drives and all seems fine, no pulling to the side or anything.

On the bigger roundabouts, it's when going about 40mph you get the feeling the front splitter is going to scuff the ground - is that normal? lol

 

[MikeyK18]

Its called winter weather trev lol

Just wait for the summer

 

[Tigger]

But it's always winter here in Norn Iron

 

[Tigger]

Quick question on the cornering subject;

What's wrong when you are coming around a long sweeping corner at 50mph, and your opposite tyre is rumbling? :S
(front right tyre on a left bend & vice-versa)

Car is doing this again - everything is fine (tyres, pressures, shocks, springs, ball joints and tracking)
Also this on a dry road on a sunny day too :S

 

[DrR]

How do you know the shock is fine? I've had two broken ones and neither was leaking, does it feel like the wheel is bending inwards? Thats how mine felt when it was buggered.

 

[Tigger]

Hmm any way of checking them then?

It sounds like the drivers-side tyre is flat when going around a sharpish left corner

 

[DrR]

Take them off and check them? Mine had no resistance on the downwards damping.

 

[16v_er]

*HELP* mine is diving at every corner....i can hear a creaking at slow speed turning?

Would this be the ball joints? how much are ball joints to buy and fit? my cup has eibach sportlines on std dampers 57k miles. The std dampers dont seem to be leaking? Does anyone have a pic of a knackered and good ball joint? so that i know what to look for. Thanks

 

[Tigger]

You'll need to get underneath and give the ball joints a good tug and check if there is any play in them.
Mine needed replaced at MOT and only noticed the play in it when it was on the shakers
so the car passed on the basis I got the joints changed

Take them off and check them? Mine had no resistance on the downwards damping.

Car seems fine in any other situation - roundabouts are fine now and taking corners a bit easier - just if you're ever pushing it you get the rumble :S

 

[paulos]

Not read all the other posts on here but having read your post, it's sounds like a case of under steer.; Common on front wheel drive vehicles. You may have hit a patch of oily road or change in road surface. if this happens, always come off the power and it will correct itself ( hopefully) .

 

[Tigger]

Definetly not something on the road mate - same thing happens on a few different locations in the same situation if you get me

 

[YozzaSport]

Sounds like your dampers are shot.

/y0z

 

[TimR26]

Got to be the dampers.

 

[Tigger]

Still on the original dampers from built - that's almost 6 years! lol

I could have coilovers back in my life very soon

 

[TimR26]

They will be a bit tired after 6 years so makes sense to get coilovers. What ones are you going to get?

 

[Tigger]

I'm looking at Cobra, or maybe the Vmaxx

 

[Darren85]

Tyre rumble around bends? Does it feel like the wheel is bouncing so to speak? could be your anti roll bar bushes?

 

[Tigger]

Rumbles about halfway through a bend, not bouncing though
All the bushes are done recently too.

 

[Darren85]

If the bushes have been done, I'd stick with the notion of a damper at fault.. had my rear two go recently (both originals from 2001) span out on a roundabout, luckily was doing about 20mph and wasn't to much to contend with, but goes to show whether rear or fronts are shot then they can cause some bad times!

 

[Tigger]

One rear one has been replaced for MOT this year so I'm guessing it's the dampers too