Driveshaft not engaging!?

[LukeJ]

Evening CS

I'm working on my 172 currently, its off the road an i'm replacing parts left right and centre.

I've had to replace the o/s driveshaft (driver side) as the boots were messes up etc.

I've put it all back together, all bolts and locked back in place, though I seem to be having a problem!

When i pull the disc around the driveshaft sounds like its jumping? Making a click clunk type sound, and judders.

I've got it up on stands at the moment, started the engine and put it in gear, the passenger side engages, but the driver side stands still. Is this normal?

I'm pretty sure both driveshaft should be engaging at this point.

Anyone have any ideas what this could be? Driveshaft makes no effort to move when in gear!

All comments appreciated as im loosing the will to live here ha!

 

[Dan@SJM]

Was it a genuine shaft?

 

[Jaff.]

Hit it in a bit harder

 

[LukeJ]

Seems to be in all the way lol! No it was not genuine, want to find out if this is the shaft of the gearbox and shat itself?

 

[scotty2hotty81]

Inner joint fallen apart in the boot?

 

[LukeJ]

The whole driveshaft does tend to move when I spin the disc so appears it's all in tact

 

[Jaff.]

Is it all bolted up? Even struts ball joints etc?

 

[LukeJ]

Yeah bottom ball joint, track rod end and driveshaft hub nut. Including the holding bracket for the driveshaft!

 

[LukeJ]

Should both sides engage? Thing is it doesn't even make a noise when it's in gear, so sounds as if that side of the box isn't actually trying to move?

 

[Jaff.]

Both bolts in the strut?
Im wondering if you've pulled it out too much

 

[LukeJ]

Yeah everything is nice and tight. You feel as if I've pulled the shaft offs the spline? I got under and their is about a 10mm gap between the end of the shaft and the box spline

 

[Jaff.]

No in the joint. If you pull them apart they can disengage and not turn properly. A wiggle and a push normally sorts it but if your all bolted up it's difficult to get it in there

 

[LukeJ]

About to post up a couple of videos mate - see what you think

 

[LukeJ]

[video=youtube_share;KJ7jv7puFWw]http://youtu.be/KJ7jv7puFWw[/video]

Jaff.

 

[Jaff.]

that doesnt look right lol....

 

[LukeJ]

haha tell me about it! hopefully someone will know something soon

 

[Jaff.]

silly question but is the other side in properly?

 

[LukeJ]

yeah other side seems absolutely fine, and engaging when in gear too. No funky noises that side!

Here's vid no.2


[video=youtube_share;C2NeGWcRPsk]http://youtu.be/C2NeGWcRPsk[/video]

 

[Jaff.]

that stinks of a fucked gearbox

hope it isnt for you though!

 

[LukeJ]

would be just my luck tbh!

Was fine prior to taking the old d/s off?

 

[Jaff.]

you must have dislodged something then.

cant be anything serious im sure

 

[LukeJ]

Little bit strange! Can't seem to find anyone else who's had this problem either!

 

[welshname]

It sounds like it's in gear with one wheel on the floor. Really odd.

 

[LukeJ]

Yeah I thought that at first! I'll grab a video of it running in gear tomorrow. Seriously at ends with this?

 

[MonacoDan]

Is the size of the spline on the shaft the same diameter as the old one? Looks as though it's small and 'skipping' across the teeth.

 

[LukeJ]

Seems to be the same size. In one ofbthe videos you can actually see the gearbox spline moving with the shaft

 

[MG cup]

You can see it jumping on the gearbox side in your first video, the shaft is turning yet the output shaft in the box is only turning at times.

Common thing to happen on the older Meganes I'm told. Here's the repair for it. And if you don't already know.... Don't drive it.

http://bit.ly/15A027x

Annnnd..... Do you have that in gear? Remove the shaft or at least remove the bottom balljoint to slide it back a little then turn the box by hand or some pliers and that will let you know for sure. Pretty sure its jumping the teeth though.

 

[LukeJ]

If that's the case I'll get back to the seller as it's a brand new shaft with warranty! I'll double check what it's doing tomorrow aswel

 

[MG cup]

Your shaft looks dodgy too in the first video. You shouldn't see any of the splines on the driveshaft side where it goes into that coupler and the 'flower' clip doesn't look too hot either.

 

[LukeJ]

The clip is lose as hell, should probably get a new one. Does it look like the shaft needs to be pushed further intimate gearbox side?

 

[MartinR]

You need a genuine renault shaft. They are only £116ish unless its a cup.

That shaft is too short imo and looks s**t. Don't scrimp do it right

 

[LukeJ]

You sure it's going to be the shaft? Just don't want to buy a gen shaft if I'm going to have the same problem

 

[LukeJ]

Ordering a genuine shaft so will see if this sorts the problem!
Any other advice guy's?

 

[Fred@BTM]

always always always buy a genuine shaft!!!

 

[LukeJ]

always always always buy a genuine shaft!!!

On the cards now mate! Really hope this solves the problem or may have to look at a new box!

 

[minisuper666]

if both sides are on jackstands, then yes, both wheels should spin. If only the drivers side is not spinning, its not a knackered box, its a knachered driveshaft.

Try the old driveshaft with the knackered boots. You may have bough an 1.* shaft by mistake which isnt the right lenght and it doesnt reach far enough into the gearbox.