Dyno results from cam fitment

[TooneySonic]

Sorry its late guys but here are the results after Paul at RSTuning had finished mapping my car

Top marks to paul for his professionalism today, also met a fellow cliosporter who saw a 12bhp gain @ 5k for his 197 from a remap alone, impressive

Anyhow, heres a comparison between the car before (just a remap by Paul) and after having my inlets matched, decat, itg filter and schrick cams fitted since

I've lost a little torque low down and only gained 10bhp (peak) but if you study the graph at 7.5k the car is making the best part of 20bhp more, and there is a clear gain over 6k ustained through to the new higher limiter

 

[Andyman]

Good result mate. It aint easy tuning these things.

Bull s**t free rolling road

Did you get a spin in the charged beast ?

 

[TooneySonic]

not today mate too cold i'm afraid and Paul was busy, Wade offered me a go in his valver but i'm not keen on driving other ppls cars just in case

must admit initially i was a little dissappointed with the figures then i studied them a little better and am now happy

big money though for small gain really, its hard to tell whether the inlets decat and filter have contributed to be honest

when i first got the car i took it over to Pauls, it made 156bhp standard so i've made decent progress really, need to benchmark it against something thou

 

[Barron]

if you wanna compare it against something, this is ours...

ph1 with matched inlets, decat, cams, ss exhaust and ofc a remap

did have 184bhp but paul prefered this map

 

[Andyman]

I was always understood (and told) that cams, inlet, zorts plus a few other mods will crack 200 bhp.

Fact is, or certainly appears, it just wont

 

[ChrisR]

^^

That is a ph1 though, which we all know are quicker anyway

 

[Jamesstone]

I made 184.5 @ surrey rolling road, regarded as one of the best rollers in the area


PH2 172FF

Matched inlets
Group N map
De-cat
Power flow full sytem

Think i'll keep the standard cams then

 

[TooneySonic]

Barron to be honest i believe my engine's been missing a few horses since it left the factory, i was referring to benchmarking it against a friend with a standard 182 (who i raced after my first map and it was even stevens) to see if the extra power makes any difference in the real world, but its good to see other cars with similar mods on Pauls rollers

interesting how yours peaks again above 7.5k, also you dont seem to lose any torque like i did low down

 

[RSTuning]

Cams will give gains when mapped to suit, as you can see peak power is moved up and so is torque, depends what you want really but +20hp on an already tuned engine is not bad. Ignoring the figures that is

 

[RSTuning]

To be honest i believe my engine's been missing a few horses since it left the factory, i was referring to benchmarking it against a friend with a standard 182 (who i raced after my first map and it was even stevens) to see if the extra power makes any difference in the real world, but its good to see other cars with similar mods on Pauls rollers

interesting how yours peaks again above 7.5k, also you dont seem to lose any torque like i did low down

Milder cams on that one.

the dip could be mapped that bit better but on the road not noticed at all.

 

[Barron]

I made 184.5 @ surrey rolling road, regarded as one of the best rollers in the area


PH2 172FF

Matched inlets
Group N map
De-cat
Power flow full sytem

Think i'll keep the standard cams then

there is no way you can compare results from different rolling roads.

our result was good considering it was the hottest day of the year

 

[RSTuning]

Dyno Dynamics are "usually" pretty close to be fair. although there is room for more fook ups on the analogue sw^ due to the manual weather entry, needs doing very often to ensure the run is accurate.

The new DD like ours has a bluetooth weather station which is automatic

 

[Andyman]

Heres mine running Zorst, inlet, Piper Cams, Maxogen, bit of headwork and 182 mani.
With 181 it was seeing off my mates R32 with ease on countless quarter mile runs, running a best of 14.4
Paul tweeked the map, gained 11lbft mid range plus nearly 6 bhp and the motor feels far better still so hope to knock a couple more 10th's off my personal best to date

 

[sideways danny]

Think Charlies is rigged up to automatic adjustment. Helped out running a day down there early this year. Not spoken to him for ages actually

 

[TooneySonic]

Andyman your car makes impressive torque as both mine and Barrons are similar @ circa 155lb/ft yet you make 170+ respect

 

[Andyman]

Andyman your car makes impressive torque as both mine and Barrons are similar @ circa 155lb/ft yet you make 170+ respect

Probably down to the headwork and 182 mani as apart from that where all running pretty much the same mods

 

[clio-172-Turbo]

My Phase one....made 174.5 bhp...from Zorst..CDA Filter, Remap...Now it's in for Turbo Conversion...Hoppin for 260bhp!!

 

[hughesclio]

not today mate too cold i'm afraid and Paul was busy, Wade offered me a go in his valver but i'm not keen on driving other ppls cars just in case

must admit initially i was a little dissappointed with the figures then i studied them a little better and am now happy

big money though for small gain really, its hard to tell whether the inlets decat and filter have contributed to be honest

when i first got the car i took it over to Pauls, it made 156bhp standard so i've made decent progress really, need to benchmark it against something thou

valver!!!!! valver!!!! cheeky mere its a hybrid lol

 

[TooneySonic]

knew that would get you going buddy haha

 

[en035]

Sorry its late guys but here are the results after Paul at RSTuning had finished mapping my car

Top marks to paul for his professionalism today, also met a fellow cliosporter who saw a 12bhp gain @ 5k for his 197 from a remap alone, impressive

Anyhow, heres a comparison between the car before (just a remap by Paul) and after having my inlets matched, decat, itg filter and schrick cams fitted since


I've lost a little torque low down and only gained 10bhp (peak) but if you study the graph at 7.5k the car is making the best part of 20bhp more, and there is a clear gain over 6k ustained through to the new higher limiter

Not a very good result but still it is ok, ask your remapper whether he let the engine keep the VVT on all the way along the rpm range?

 

[drunknmunky]

This is mine totally standard with jst a decat and a ITG Panel filter

 

[TooneySonic]

Not a very good result but still it is ok, ask your remapper whether he let the engine keep the VVT on all the way along the rpm range?

You'll have to ask Paul i'm afraid but his reputation is second to non when it comes to mapping RS's, which is why i went to him

I'm just resigned to the belief that i have one of the weaker engines out there

 

[TooneySonic]

Good result you got there Nick

 

[RSTuning]

Not a very good result but still it is ok, ask your remapper whether he let the engine keep the VVT on all the way along the rpm range?

Trust me, best result coming from that car.

 

[Brett]

Not bad results mate. Its a shame that RS's don't mate they're quoted power standard. Bit out of order that you pay for a 170 bhp car and only get 156 bhp standard.

 

[Andyman]

Not bad results mate. Its a shame that RS's don't mate they're quoted power standard. Bit out of order that you pay for a 170 bhp car and only get 156 bhp standard.

It is ''PS'' not BHP remember but yeah quite a lot seem to run under power in stock trim.

Could be a million and one reasons. They do seem to love mileage these things so anything under 50k is only a pup lol

TBH Even with 168 bhp they can match a Civic Type R which have a good 10 to 15 bhp more so let the road do the talking rather than the figures

 

[Fred@BTM]

get down to santa pod that car should run a 14.1 to 14.3, if it doesn't its crap

 

[Andyman]

Thats what im hoping Fred.
Ran a 14.4 with full interior, heavy Speedline 2118's and prior to the tweeked map so should run better on a decent track and especially now its set up

 

[Fred@BTM]

14.4 @pod is very respectable for a mk2! (well not to the mk1 boys or paddy who ran a 14.4 in a standard 172 IIRC, but the mk2's don't have any of that lightweight rust!!!)

 

[Andyman]

That was up at crappy Crail too so at Pod, surely worth another 10th off that time alone?

 

[Tigger]

Would I be right to get a RR done after mods before considering anything like cams etc?

 

[broster@JAM-Sport]

Would I be right to get a RR done after mods before considering anything like cams etc?

always benificial to get a power graph of the car before you fit any performance mods, but make sure you use the same rolling road for any other graphs, also its always best to do before and after graphs on the same day if possible...

 

[Andyman]

Would I be right to get a RR done after mods before considering anything like cams etc?

Just for your own interest yeah. Will make sure the cars running right prior to work.

If you choose mapping through a tuning company you should get a final set up RR figure

 

[Bazzon]

Not a very good result but still it is ok, ask your remapper whether he let the engine keep the VVT on all the way along the rpm range?

Lol no idea then....never heard of RStuning....FLOL .

 

[Dan R]

I was always understood (and told) that cams, inlet, zorts plus a few other mods will crack 200 bhp.

Fact is, or certainly appears, it just wont

Yep ur right. U have no chance. U need bodies