Engine Mount - bolt sizes and swapping pointers

[KitsonRis]

Have got a Vibratrechniques engine mount to go onto the car. It was second hand so I painted it to match the inlet colour (all to be fitted hopefully next week!).
Looking at the current bolts that hold the engine mount to the car they look a bit scabby compared to the fresh painted stuff. Without taking one out as I can't where I am (moving back home tomorrow!) but want to order new bolts now while I remember.

Did a search and it appears they are not standard bolts, or can I use normal M10 70mm bolts? I have found a part number 7703101553 and would anyone know if this is right? http://www.allcarpartsfast.co.uk/renault/renault-7703101553-bolt-m10-70/ Just seems a lot for an M10 bolt.

And to change the engine mount, am I right is saying.....
* remove under tray thing and prop a jack under the engine to hold it in place to stop it moving
* undo cam cover (I have a new one to go on)
* take off engine mount - presume the nut is captive and you don't need to get under neath them?
* reverse the above to refit

Oh and bolt torques! Anyone point me in the right direction for these!

 

[loggyboy]

http://www.toolstation.com/search?searchstr=10339 45293 47374

 

[KitsonRis]

http://www.toolstation.com/search?searchstr=10339 45293 47374

That's a better price! Tbh I was only going to go to Screwfix or similar if there was no reason to keep the originals
Any idea the Renault ones are stupid money?

 

[loggyboy]

So they can charge stupid amounts when they 'need' to replace them.

 

[Bear Head]

Make sure you put a piece of wood on the jack to spread the weight. You undo the 4 nuts holding the mount to the car, the nut through the middle of the mount and the 3 or 4 on the cam cover near the car.

They need torquing to 62nm I think. f**king tight basically. It's like a 20 minute job.

Everything is captive in the engine bay side so it'll be fine.

Sometimes on the engine tray underneath the nuts can come off and be a b*****d to get back on. It's hard if you don't Jack the car up in this instance. You need two people to get the back on if this happens lol.

 

[KitsonRis]

Make sure you put a piece of wood on the jack to spread the weight. You undo the 4 nuts holding the mount to the car, the nut through the middle of the mount and the 3 or 4 on the cam cover near the car.

They need torquing to 62nm I think. f**king tight basically. It's like a 20 minute job.

Everything is captive in the engine bay side so it'll be fine.

Sometimes on the engine tray underneath the nuts can come off and be a b*****d to get back on. It's hard if you don't Jack the car up in this instance. You need two people to get the back on if this happens lol.

Sounds like I had it sorted in my mind!! Yeah will spread the weight, I have seen horror stories of jacks going through/damaging sumps and that, but I will find a suitable place to support it.
The engine tray has been off serveral times, it was off last week when I changed the oil so pretty confident it will be fine.

 

[bloke]

http://www.toolstation.com/search?searchstr=10339 45293 47374

none of them will do the job though and you need a thick washer with them as well.

 

[KitsonRis]

none of them will do the job though and you need a thick washer with them as well.

So it has to be the "genuine" item? I am sure I can sort a washer out aas there are plenty kicking about in the workshop, or re-use the washer. Just the heads looked old compared to the fresh painted look I wanted to change

 

[bloke]

no doesn't need to be genuine just not a shouldered bolt.

 

[Bear Head]

So it has to be the "genuine" item? I am sure I can sort a washer out aas there are plenty kicking about in the workshop, or re-use the washer. Just the heads looked old compared to the fresh painted look I wanted to change

Tbf, I just painted the bolt heads with a brush when they were in situe. Looks really good tbh.

 

[MRBILLYUK]

The original bolts are 45mm long . I used these 50mm long bolts , which are ok
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M5-M6-M8-...id=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&mehot=pp&sd=160911025817
The original washers are 35mm in diameter and 3mm thick .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M10-Qty-1...767318?hash=item19f6247716:g:docAAOSwHnFVp4rD