Engines dead?

[Doughnut]

This car is a shared car between me and my brother, he was driving it and it kept stalling from overheating but he kept going, the engine started to make a rattling noise on the left side but he kept going, it kept coming and going around 2700 - 3000 RPM.

There was smoke coming from underneath the left side of the engine and it eventually went after he let it cool down, after a little while there was smoke coming out the exhaust a gey/blue colored smoke.

The engine finally died and he threw water over the engine and filled the radiator with tap water, a little under room temp. Every time we start the motor it just doesn't do anything at all it makes some sluggish moan and dies.

What do you guys think the problem is? And will this cost me alot to fix?

 

[DaveDreads]

He threw cold water on a hot engine!?

I know someone that cracked their bloke doing that to an over heating engine.

 

[Dan]

He threw cold water on a hot engine!?

I know someone that cracked their bloke doing that to an over heating engine.

cracked their bloke lol

 

[DaveDreads]

LOL, they also cracked their block.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

Fucked ! Basicly under stupidity rather than stopping , everything inside that engine is now wrecked.
Rapid cooling won't of done it any good

 

[Doughnut]

Dunno, do you think I should scrap it? Or drop in a new engine

 

[Doughnut]

Well I just went to collect the car and apparently its gone, so somebody towed it from the side of the road in the middle of know-where on a deserted car park, right..

 

[DaveDreads]

Dunno, do you think I should scrap it? Or drop in a new engine

Depends which is cheaper tbh,
if it wasn't broke before throwing cold water on it will have finished it off.

Well I just went to collect the car and apparently its gone, so somebody towed it from the side of the road in the middle of know-where on a deserted car park, right..

So it's been nicked?

 

[Doughnut]

Depends which is cheaper tbh,
if it wasn't broke before throwing cold water on it will have finished it off.



So it's been nicked?

Not too sure if it was dead before or after he threw cold water in the radiator. The vehicle appears to of been taken waiting on more details though, brothers a idiot.

 

[Dan]

lol this thread has further twists and turns I shall be watching closely to how this unfolds.

 

[McGherkin]

It sounds like your brother is a bit of a Dougnut.

 

[DaveDreads]

Not too sure if it was dead before or after he threw cold water in the radiator. The vehicle appears to of been taken waiting on more details though, brothers a idiot.

So he put cold water in the coolant bottle?
Did he throw any over the engine or not?

 

[Doughnut]

Water was thrown on top of the engine yes, not alot only small amounts at a time.

 

[DaveDreads]

Well that'll be scrap then.

That's the absolute worst thing you can do to a hot engine.

 

[Doughnut]

Why? The engine was working after he did it, he did it about 3 or 4 times during his trip. It's currently at a garage now, my dads friend is looking at it, am I going to be expecting alot of work to be done or is it worth finding a new engine on Ebay to replace this one with, I just want the cheapest method I don't have that much money.

 

[DaveDreads]

Rapid contraction of hot metal causes stress fractures, if not massive cracks,
best thing to do is just leave the bonnet up and let it cool down on it''s own.

You may be lucky and got away with it, but i'll be very surprised.

 

[Doughnut]

Rapid contraction of hot metal causes stress fractures, if not massive cracks,
best thing to do is just leave the bonnet up and let it cool down on it''s own.

You may be lucky and got away with it, but i'll be very surprised.

Crap.. I am gutted if this is a major job. If I buy a new engine from a scrap yard will I need to do anything with DVLA? The same size engine would be in there, or would I need to declare a conversion of the same engine?

 

[Doughnut]

P.S The water was sitting in the car, so it was about room temperature I suppose? Just have to wait for the mechanic now

 

[DaveDreads]

Crap.. I am gutted if this is a major job. If I buy a new engine from a scrap yard will I need to do anything with DVLA? The same size engine would be in there, or would I need to declare a conversion of the same engine?

No you're only changing like for like, same as any other part that breaks or wears out.

 

[Snake182]

If your fitting the same size engine that's already fitted then nothing needs declaring at all.

 

[Doughnut]

Ok thank you. Well I will see about getting a new engine and dropping it in. What price could I expect for a mechanic to drop it in?

 

[Jaff.]

lol just noticed the OP's name!

perhaps its his brother that has signed up after all?

what car is it? engine should be cheap enough (car dependant) changing it is a couple of hundred £

 

[Doughnut]

lol just noticed the OP's name!

perhaps its his brother that has signed up after all?

what car is it? engine should be cheap enough (car dependant) changing it is a couple of hundred £

No lol, it's my car. Hmm I will take a look at the scrap yard shortly, thank you.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

How are you ment to fit another engine if you haven't a car to fit it in LOL!

Brings a a whole new Moron to ' an engine /four wheels and a steering wheel is all you need '

 

[MartinR]

I sniff a bull shitter.

Retardism has killed the engine, next time your brother looks hot throw a jug of piss over him

 

[Gandi69]

Sounds like someone's done you a favour by towing it away

 

[McGherkin]

How are you ment to fit another engine if you haven't a car to fit it in LOL!

This is what I don't get.

Has it suddenly come back from its walkies now? Where did it go?

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

probably tried driving itself to the scrap yard for saftey....

 

[Doughnut]

For all the clever clogs here, the car was towed to a garage by my dads friend, but I wasn't told. It will cost £400 to repair as the head gasket is gone. Should I drop a new engine in or pay for the head gasket?

 

[DaveDreads]

You haven't mentioned what car it is?

Because 172/182's generally don't blow head gaskets.

 

[MartinR]

From what i have read in here £400 aint going to fix that.

 

[Mr R.]

Cambelt kit £100
Dephaser £120
Head gasket kit £80
Head bolts £75
Aux belt kit £55
Oil
Filter
Labour

And that's if there is no damage to the cam journal if the head got that hot.

Or new engine + get the belts done before fitting it.

 

[DaveDreads]

That's assuming it's an F4R, we still have no clue what kind of car it is.

 

[Doughnut]

I own a 197 model. - The man quoted my dad £400 but I suspect the whole engine is f**ked?

 

[Matt W]

WTF. How stupid do you have to be to keep driving an overheating car!

It'll be a lot more than £400.

 

[Diagro]

Seriously how stupid!?

When my waterpump started to go my 172 got stupid warm.
as soon as that needle was pointing up I stopped for an hour and drove home at 30mph with heating on to help coolengine lol

you DONT KEEP DRIVING

 

[Doughnut]

Planning to buy a new engine and drop it in myself, soon as I find one that will fit the gearbox etc. Take it for an MOT and see if they spot anything wrong with it, then happy days. Driving my Vauxhall Insignia till that happens, what engine sizes are compatible with a 1.8L?

 

[matt_132]

Gotta be a wind up!

 

[Dan@SJM]

There's no way they can repair it for £400. The parts alone will cost that.

 

[LiamR172]

This is hilarious!