Errr ... Maybe Not.

[Moby]

From WhatCar - http://www.whatcar.co.uk/RoadTest_Summary.asp?DL=0&RT=206044http://www.whatcar.co.uk/RoadTest_Summary.asp?DL=0&RT=206044

Renault Clio 2.0 16v Renaultsport 182 3dr

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The 182 is quick enough to see off a Honda Civic Type-R ...

Now wait a minute, As far as Im concerned the 182 aint quicker than my cup, and my cup aint quicker than an old type r, never mind the new improved one.

I think someone has been smoking those funny cigarettes

 

[marvel]

bumpy b-road

 

[JillyB]

Quote: Originally posted by B@llsie on 19 January 2004


Now wait a minute, As far as Im concerned the 182 aint quicker than my cup.

hehe, I think as far as 182 owners are/will be concerned, youll be wrong.

 

[Tom]

considering NOBODY on here has driven one i think we should wait.

 

[steve a]

if its got a true 182bhp then i am affraid it will be quicker than a cup, seeing as most are 164-166bhp anyway ~ +14bhp puts the power to weight ratio back in the 182s favour??

 

[Tom]

No. it loses out by 1bhp to the cup

167 vs 168

Btw the ctr is 163bhp/tonne. hmm

110kg heavier than the 182

and a stonking 199kg more than a cup

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by steve a on 19 January 2004



if its got a true 182bhp

But it wont be...

 

[steve a]

ok my bad, at least on par then.

 

[Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by Rich-D on 19 January 2004

Quote: Originally posted by steve a on 19 January 2004




if its got a true 182bhp

But it wont be...



But it might not be you mean.

 

[steve a]

Quote: Originally posted by Rich-D on 19 January 2004

Quote: Originally posted by steve a on 19 January 2004




if its got a true 182bhp

But it wont be...

LOL, yeah think your probably right.

 

[Rich-D]

They all vary anyway, so you will get good & bad 182s and some "may" make 182bhp DIN (about 179bhp SAE), but not all will...

Still got the extra weight to cope with!

 

[Moby]

From the figures Ive seen for them all, and I know it aint the best way to compare them:-

0-60s

182 - 7.1s

Cup - 6.8s (EVO say 6.5s but thats a bit optimistic)

Type R - 6.6s (shaves 0.2s from the old one - got this from CAR Magazine - Nov/Dec 03)

 

[Tom]

Now compare the stats with their fair equals.

the 182 figures are from the manufacturer.

Im sorry but until a roadtest with a vbox is done you cannot say how fast the 182 really is.

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by Tomclio182 on 19 January 2004


Im sorry but until a roadtest with a vbox is done you cannot say how fast the 182 really is.

Exactly...

 

[Moby]

Yeah, youre right.

But surely WhatCar should have waited too!

 

[Tom]

well the press need to get things out in to the arena asap.

so they use the oe stats. makes sense.

Autocar and evo will both run road tests.

 

[MIKE-CUP]

Quote: Originally posted by B@llsie on 19 January 2004


From the figures Ive seen for them all, and I know it aint the best way to compare them:-

0-60s

182 - 7.1s

Cup - 6.8s (EVO say 6.5s but thats a bit optimistic)

Type R - 6.6s (shaves 0.2s from the old one - got this from CAR Magazine - Nov/Dec 03)

Autocar has roadtested the CUP @ 6.5secs 0-60 and 16.9secs 0-100. Thankyou please!

 

[Tom]

Yup they got a mk1 172 to 60 in 6.6 secs (i was there)

 

[KDF]

If the Cup is faster than the 182 does that mean your gonna enjoy your car less ?

 

[Tom]

No i dont really care. its just a case of dont knock it until youve tried it.

if i wanted a cup i would have one now.

 

[Neil82]

Quote: Originally posted by steve a on 19 January 2004

if its got a true 182bhp then i am affraid it will be quicker than a cup, seeing as most are 164-166bhp anyway ~ +14bhp puts the power to weight ratio back in the 182s favour??

Well mine was RR @ 180 hp so what does that do to the p/w/r 182 vs my Cup

Most "good" Cups will easily make 172 hp FFS they can do mid 14 1/4 miles!

 

[KDF]

Quote: Originally posted by Tomclio182 on 19 January 2004


No i dont really care. its just a case of dont knock it until youve tried it.

if i wanted a cup i would have one now.

You know it and I know it.. had the same situation when I was looking, decided the 172 was the best out of the lot. (before the 182 which is what I would buy this time round)