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FAO ppl with bucket seats - Airbag light on dash
- Thread starter Rob_
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Just stick resisters in the system or better still remove the whole loom if your removing all the airbags.
This is for the Mk2 Clio owners only.
Once you have set an airbag or pretensioner off no other airbags or pretensioners can be set off. The computer is useless the light will stay on on the dash.
If you have had an airbag or pretensioner activated you have only a few ways of getting rid of the light.
1) New airbag module (£150 to £350 depending what model you have) then Renault to program it to your car. Also replace the side impact sensors. Then either
a) Put a resister in the loom to make the airbag computer think a airbag is present. (see later notes)
b) Put a new airbag in.
2) Unplug the light from the dashboard
One note to make if the airbag/pretensioner ligh is on due to a fault etc then the airbags shouldn't go off. However owners who have crashed cars with airbags on have said the airbag system still works.
The Clio detects the airbags being connected by checking the resistance of wires in the of the airbags.
So long as the resistance is in the correct range then no warning light will be set off.
If you disconnect any of the airbags (so long as no other have been set off) all you need to do to stop the warning light coming on is stick a resister in the wiring looms to make the airbag computer think there is a airbag present.
The figures below are ones the airbags computers need to sence to think an airbag is connected.
Drivers airbag between 1.8 to 6.2 Ohms. This runs through the lines 1 and 2 of the airbag/pretensioners computers.
Passenger airbag between 1.8 to 4 Ohms. This runs through the lines 3 and 4 of the airbag computer.
Side airbags between 1.8 to 4 Ohms. Passengers line runs through the lines 34 and 9 of the airbag computer. Drivers line runs through the lines 8 and 33 of the airbag computer.
Pretensioner between 1.8 to 4 Ohms. Passengers line is marked D and is track 11 and 36 on the 30 track connector. Drivers line is marked C and is track 10 and 35 on the 30 track connector.
So long as the resistance is between these values above (I'd a resister value in the middle of each of these values) then no warning light will come on.
If you want to remove any of the above airbags the resisters need to be plugged into the following locations
Drivers airbag - There are two resisters you need. The airbags system works on a high and low pressure system so you need one resister for each line. If you remove the airbag you'll find 4 wires. One pair go from the orange connector to lines 6 and 7 on the cruise control/airbag connector. They are orange and grey in colour. They go to a black connector and exist the connector on the same colour lines. You can put the resister before or after the connector block though between the wires. These wires go into connections into the airbag computer in lines 4 and 29 (if you want to strip the center console off to save the weight/loose wires).
The other pair of wires go from the green connector to lines 9 (beige) and 10 (salmon) on the cruise control/airbag connector (Black in colour) then out of the connector on the same colour lines. These wires go into connections into the airbag computer in lines 5 and 10 (if you want to strip the center console off to save the weight/loose wires).
Passengers airbag - There are two resisters you need. The airbags system works on a high and low pressure system so you need one resister for each line. If you remove the airbag you'll find 4 wires. One pair go from the orange connector to lines 2 and 27 on the airbag computer. The lines are brown and blue respectifully.
The other pair of wires go from the green connector to lines 3 and 28 on the airbag computer. They are blue and brown respectfully.
Drivers side airbag - Under the drivers seat there a black clip with cable going in and out. The lines 2 and 3 (ie the orange and brown wires) are the ones you need to stick the resister in. The spare black line is the earthing wire.
Passenger side airbag - Under the passengers seat there a black clip with cable going in and out. The lines 2 and 3 (ie the Beige and Brown wires) are the ones you need to stick the resister in. The spare black line is the earthing wire.
Drivers side pretensioner - Under the drivers seat near the front there a grey clip with cable going in and out. The lines A8 and A7 (ie the orange and brown wires) are the ones you need to stick the resister in.
Passengers side pretentensioner - Under the passengers seat near the front there a grey clip with cable going in and out. The lines A8 and A7 (ie the orange and brown wires) are the ones you need to stick the resister in.
The airbag computer needs to be supplied with between 10.5 and 16 Volts otherwise a fault will be raised.
If you wish to remove your side airbags for aftermarket seats then you can either do as the above says regards sticking a fuse in the circuit or ask your local Renault dealer if they will adjust your cars airbags computer via there Clip laptops so that it thinks there isn't an airbag there (some of the the lower spec cars didn't have). However many dealers are will refuse to do this.
This is for the Mk2 Clio owners only.
Once you have set an airbag or pretensioner off no other airbags or pretensioners can be set off. The computer is useless the light will stay on on the dash.
If you have had an airbag or pretensioner activated you have only a few ways of getting rid of the light.
1) New airbag module (£150 to £350 depending what model you have) then Renault to program it to your car. Also replace the side impact sensors. Then either
a) Put a resister in the loom to make the airbag computer think a airbag is present. (see later notes)
b) Put a new airbag in.
2) Unplug the light from the dashboard
One note to make if the airbag/pretensioner ligh is on due to a fault etc then the airbags shouldn't go off. However owners who have crashed cars with airbags on have said the airbag system still works.
The Clio detects the airbags being connected by checking the resistance of wires in the of the airbags.
So long as the resistance is in the correct range then no warning light will be set off.
If you disconnect any of the airbags (so long as no other have been set off) all you need to do to stop the warning light coming on is stick a resister in the wiring looms to make the airbag computer think there is a airbag present.
The figures below are ones the airbags computers need to sence to think an airbag is connected.
Drivers airbag between 1.8 to 6.2 Ohms. This runs through the lines 1 and 2 of the airbag/pretensioners computers.
Passenger airbag between 1.8 to 4 Ohms. This runs through the lines 3 and 4 of the airbag computer.
Side airbags between 1.8 to 4 Ohms. Passengers line runs through the lines 34 and 9 of the airbag computer. Drivers line runs through the lines 8 and 33 of the airbag computer.
Pretensioner between 1.8 to 4 Ohms. Passengers line is marked D and is track 11 and 36 on the 30 track connector. Drivers line is marked C and is track 10 and 35 on the 30 track connector.
So long as the resistance is between these values above (I'd a resister value in the middle of each of these values) then no warning light will come on.
If you want to remove any of the above airbags the resisters need to be plugged into the following locations
Drivers airbag - There are two resisters you need. The airbags system works on a high and low pressure system so you need one resister for each line. If you remove the airbag you'll find 4 wires. One pair go from the orange connector to lines 6 and 7 on the cruise control/airbag connector. They are orange and grey in colour. They go to a black connector and exist the connector on the same colour lines. You can put the resister before or after the connector block though between the wires. These wires go into connections into the airbag computer in lines 4 and 29 (if you want to strip the center console off to save the weight/loose wires).
The other pair of wires go from the green connector to lines 9 (beige) and 10 (salmon) on the cruise control/airbag connector (Black in colour) then out of the connector on the same colour lines. These wires go into connections into the airbag computer in lines 5 and 10 (if you want to strip the center console off to save the weight/loose wires).
Passengers airbag - There are two resisters you need. The airbags system works on a high and low pressure system so you need one resister for each line. If you remove the airbag you'll find 4 wires. One pair go from the orange connector to lines 2 and 27 on the airbag computer. The lines are brown and blue respectifully.
The other pair of wires go from the green connector to lines 3 and 28 on the airbag computer. They are blue and brown respectfully.
Drivers side airbag - Under the drivers seat there a black clip with cable going in and out. The lines 2 and 3 (ie the orange and brown wires) are the ones you need to stick the resister in. The spare black line is the earthing wire.
Passenger side airbag - Under the passengers seat there a black clip with cable going in and out. The lines 2 and 3 (ie the Beige and Brown wires) are the ones you need to stick the resister in. The spare black line is the earthing wire.
Drivers side pretensioner - Under the drivers seat near the front there a grey clip with cable going in and out. The lines A8 and A7 (ie the orange and brown wires) are the ones you need to stick the resister in.
Passengers side pretentensioner - Under the passengers seat near the front there a grey clip with cable going in and out. The lines A8 and A7 (ie the orange and brown wires) are the ones you need to stick the resister in.
The airbag computer needs to be supplied with between 10.5 and 16 Volts otherwise a fault will be raised.
If you wish to remove your side airbags for aftermarket seats then you can either do as the above says regards sticking a fuse in the circuit or ask your local Renault dealer if they will adjust your cars airbags computer via there Clip laptops so that it thinks there isn't an airbag there (some of the the lower spec cars didn't have). However many dealers are will refuse to do this.
Yep they will regardless or the light being on.
As Middo said Renault can sort of switch the seatbelt off but thats for diagnostics not long term use realy.
Best idea is to strip the wires and solder the resisters to that.
lemonnobby
ClioSport Club Member
if it trophey seats then you can alter the settings using clip, most renault dealers wont do this though.
CTR--VX220D
look in my blog.
Mondeo STTDCI
Mine has been done on the clip and has remained so for the best part of a year! its fine
i told my airbag ecu on clip that it didnt have any airbags.
Evo 8 Jap Crap
CTR--VX220D
Use the resistors - if you have a connection that doesnt work - hence the light not going out [like my steering wheel] then remove your binnacle and cover up the recesses where the lights go.
All in my blog.
I am now SERV and airbag light free
All in my blog.
I am now SERV and airbag light free
A number of clios
Most dont but some do it for free
lol....imagine my surprise when I got my car back and found no more dam airbag/serv light! When i refitted the OE seats in mine the light came back on and i took it to a different dealer as I wasn't near bristol...i had to explain that 'someone' re-configured my airbag circuit settings and they just needed to reactiviate it/put it back to normal to make the light go out....took the numpty 45mins or so to find it on the clip and i got charged fifty or sixty odd quid!
So basically; don't bother with resistors or removing the led just find someone friendly and competant with the CLIP diagnostics
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