FASTEST CLIO!

[Dansta]

NOW THE BOARD HAS GOT A BIT QUIET IN THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS SO I THOUGHT ID POST A SIMPLE SLIGHTLY IMMATTURE THREAD!! LOL!

SO COME ON WHO RECKONS THEY HAVE FASTEST!?

(NOT THAT WE SHOULD DRIVE ANY OF OUR CARS OVER THE SPEED LIMIT AT ANY TIME OF COURSE!)

 

[nickg123]

It has to be a Clio Cup surely?? Unless Nick Reads NOS powered beast would compete?

 

[VR6man]

i do obviously cause my car is always faster than everyone elses

 

[ChavyBoy]

Depends wether you mean fastest over 1/4 mile or fastest top end !

Whateven one you mean it isnt me !

 

[marcus cliogtt]

umm not me! Unless it was off a cliff!

 

[greeper]

What about Dash and his Clio V6?

 

[big hp]

Could be me.......................... but it isnt

 

[VR6man]

i think if anything falls off a big enough cliff it will reach the same speed in theory wont it ?

 

[James20VT]

well i was thinking me..... but then i come back to reality and remembered it was only 40mph speed limit here so.......count me out!

 

[Dansta]

HOW ABOUT A TWIN ENGINNED CUP?!?! LIKE THE R5GT TURBO! ONE IN THE FRONT ONE IN THE BACK!!!!

HMMMMMM DROOOL!

 

[ChavyBoy]

VR6MAN what about drag factor off the cliff ? Would that effect it ?

 

[James20VT]

drop a ton of bricks off a cliff.. and drop a ton of feathers off a cliff... which one hits the ground first?

 

[VR6man]

well they should both hit the ground first i would have thought.....depends if you just dropped like a giant handful of feathers of the cliff..the wind would have some kind of effect there...surely...

 

[ChavyBoy]

Bricks cause feather would have a larger surface area and their drag co-efficiency would be less ?

Theory sound plausible ?

 

[VR6man]

drag factor... erm....

with cars.. no...

*trys to think back to physics lessons*

 

[James20VT]

nope ton in weight is a ton! should hit ground same time!



the amount of people who say bricks

 

[VR6man]

if you had all the feathers in a big bag then the drag is less of an issue isnt it ???

 

[ChavyBoy]

OK my theory is

The ton of bricks has a smaller surface area than a ton of feathers so the wind resistance would come into effect ! Yes/No ?

 

[James20VT]

not sure

 

[VR6man]

hmmm

quite possibly....

compressed feathers ?????

im gonna look this up

 

[16V_Matt]

i agree with chavyboy the bricks would most likely have a higher terminal velocity as u would need a whole sh*te load of feathers!

then again it all depends on how they are aranged!

theres just loads of vairiables thatcould effect the outcome and thats just boring and cant be assed to list them all!

Matt

 

[ChavyBoy]

Well it its something to talk about

VR6MAN when I say compressed feather I mean the air remove between each one in a bag etc.

 

[Dansta]

dang!!! thats deep! you lot sure get into it!!

But i agree i reckon with surface area, the bricks will get there quicker, cos a ton of feathers will be a sh*tload, and will be huge! the bricks are smaller and heavier! less resistance! nuff said! (i think!)

 

[James20VT]

yes compressed feathers in the bag as ud need a BIG bag for a ton of feathers un compressed

i still think theyd hit same time.

tons a ton!

 

[ChavyBoy]

James put it like this. Throw a wooden plank out of a building which weighted a ton and then throw out a lead weight the size of 2 footballs. The surface area of the wooden plank is greater so it would encounter more wind resistance yes/no ?

 

[Sangy]

you guys want to start thinking or your calculations in density rather than surface area...

 

[James20VT]

i aint no rocket scientist..



SLARTY we need you!

 

[Craggy]

well sir isaac stated that a body will maintain a state of rest or unform acceleration unless acted upon by an external force, in this case drag. this scenario. is where people confuse mass with weight

the force formula is f=ma so rearrange that to acceleration = force/mass

force being gravity and mass being the mass of either object.



craggy

 

[Craggy]

and im pretty sure the bricks mass would take it

 

[ChavyBoy]

Sangy please explain mate as I know its a little sad but I am interested !

 

[Craggy]

think im on the rightish lines, i did finish this particular part of college a few years ago so im rusty, im gonna see if i can find out ..................

 

[JonC]

I remember seeing an experiment they did on the moon. That was to drop a hammer and a feather at the same time and from the same height. Both landed exactly at the same time. This was explained by the fact that the moon has no atmosphere and therefore the feather had no resistance or drag to overcome. So if you dropped a ton of bricks and a ton of feathers off a luna cliff they would land at the same time. On Earth the ton of bricks would land first as the ton of feathers would have a greater surface area for the same weight to cause drag.

 

[16V_Matt]

Is that a ton of earth bricks and feathers or a tone of lunar brick and feathers that u r droping on the moon!

Also are u sure about the hammer feather thing because it doesnt add up to me as the gravity of the moon would effect the objects and the hammer would still weigh more thana feather on the moon and therefore fall faster!

 

[VR6man]

ah cunning....

sorry..ive been off down the pub so ive missed this exciting development

 

[James20VT]

Matt, when u see people jumping on the moon or in space.. they almost float, and land slowly, big of small doesnt matter about their size it seems, maybe same with the hammer and feather?

 

[ChavyBoy]

Quote: Originally posted by 16V_Matt on 30 October 2002


Also are u sure about the hammer feather thing because it doesnt add up to me as the gravity of the moon would effect the objects and the hammer would still weigh more thana feather on the moon and therefore fall faster!

I would agree with matt cause the moon still has gravity ! This is getting interesting isnt it ?

 

[VR6man]

yeah but on the moon there is no gravity which is why you gotta be careful jumping around... youll just fly off....

also.. no wind resistance... so no drag....

 

[VR6man]

hmmm

 

[big hp]

Bricks would definately take it, surface area matters.

God we are sad

Scott

 

[ChavyBoy]

This is gravity on the moon or as soon as you jump you would float into space which people dont. I have to agree no air though bit its still a feather and a hammer, unless the feather weighted the same as the hammer !



If there was no gravity on the moon the surface of the moon would float into space.

And isnt there a phsyics law about the mass of an object and gravity or something. Something like a large object creates gravity !