Ferodo DS 2500 issue

[JohnnyE]

Car went for an mot the other day and passed but advised on the pads, so today fitted some Mintex 1166 and was shocked by the condition of the old pad Has anyone else had this issue??

 

[julzh]

The reason I would never fit them, there have been several instances of this happening over on CT.

 

[Chi]

I put 1166 on my R26.. like em!!

 

[Bluebeard]

Yep. Mine completely disintegrated on track after 4-5 laps. I certainly won't be using them again!

 

[Chi]

Yep. Mine completely disintegrated on track after 4-5 laps. I certainly won't be using them again!

IIRC the Halford ones were better

 

[Meek_racing]

I've been using DS2500 & DS3000's for over 4 years now, not had any issues with them and I'm quite heavy on the brake pedal. Could this just be a bad batch? I'll check my current ones over the weekend.

 

[Bluebeard]

IIRC the Halford ones were better

£27 and they lasted the whole day!

 

[Adam G]

£27 and they lasted the whole day!

You could light cigars off them though.

 

[p@blo]

Look like theyve been massively overheated.

 

[mark123]

My ds2500 went like that after a race. Not had any problems with the ds3000 though.

 

[Joe#]

I've never had any problems with mine.

 

[Chi]

I've never had any problems with mine.

Obviously not trying hard enough

 

[MicKPM]

Deffo heat related damage pictured above but I am also a huge hater of the DS2500 (love my DS3000's though).

 

[Meek_racing]

I think it was Freddy that told me to put some heat cycles into them before properly hammering them on track or for road use, I think they need to be properly cured. The only issue I've ever had was using the 2500 compound on 4 pot willwoods. They only come with 4-5mm of material on so didn't last more than a day on track

 

[imprezaworks]

Strange how people raved about these a while back.

 

[MartinR]

Crap pads imo, but the common thing i have noticed is folk not filing enough off them or leaving the shims in place which once hot they stick and get even hotter, hence the disintergration like above....

 

[Steve]

Strange how people raved about these a while back.

They did not know better or as usual followed like sheep.

 

[Chi]

I had them on the trophy and they were great, just thought I'd try something different hence the 1166s

 

[MicKPM]

I was guilty of following the masses with a set and they didn't last a day ata Bedford and i'm no sbridgey

As a road pad they are fine but they seem to be rated as a track pad when they're not. For the money there is far better out there for less. The M1144 being one but even the standard Brembo compound I personally rate as batter.

 

[MartinR]

They did not know better or as usual followed like sheep.

Nail > Head

 

[imprezaworks]

They did not know better or as usual followed like sheep.

Yep

 

[BustaMOVEs]

Ds2500 are not 'actually' a track/race pad and they leave huge deposits on discs that cause judder
And very overpriced for a 'fast road' pad. I'd get £20+ pagids for road use over them.

 

[JohnnyE]

I think if I decide to keep my car for another year I will be investing in a set of DS3000's I think..........

 

[Chi]

Very pricey though mate especially just for track days. . All the extras add up. .

 

[sbridgey]

DS3000's are awesome, but I would probably try a set of Yellowstuffs for half the price if I ever got a clio again.

DS3000's are just too expensive and dont last a particularly long either, well with me driving anyways... :race:

 

[Bluebeard]

I can't imagine anything lasting long with you driving.

 

[sbridgey]

My DS2500's lasted ages and still had 50% left when i took them out actually, but they did cause awful juddering when hot.

 

[MicKPM]

DS3000's are just too expensive and dont last a particularly long either, well with me driving anyways... :race:

I know you said "with you" but mine are still going strong Simon but you did absolutely crucify yours to be fair. I've done 5 full on days now and not half way thru them yet. To me it's £150 for pads that work for me on standard discs and setup vs spending close on £1k for something better.

A single set of DS3000's with some Brembo HC discs a year is an acceptable cost to me for the role they perform.

 

[Chi]

Might try your setup on my track car MicKPM

 

[sbridgey]

I know you said "with you" but mine are still going strong Simon but you did absolutely crucify yours to be fair. I've done 5 full on days now and not half way thru them yet. To me it's £150 for pads that work for me on standard discs and setup vs spending close on £1k for something better.

A single set of DS3000's with some Brembo HC discs a year is an acceptable cost to me for the role they perform.

If you want me to help you finish yours off, let me know

 

[MicKPM]

I rate them but because they allow me to brake progressively/normally for longer meaning I can stay out and burn more fuel or if I need to go hard on I have the option.

Brakes are like tyres though in that setups and "feel" is entirely personal but this works great for me.

 

[MicKPM]

If you want me to help you finish yours off, let me know

Yes, I'm obviously not driving it hard enough lol

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Never had problems with my DS2500 on track. Try not to put too much heat in, get the braking done quickly and carry a bit more speed.

They're not the best pad granted, but the dust doesn't eat paint and they're a decent all rounder.

I will be trying Yellowstuff next, At £60ish for a set its worth a go. I haven't got on with them previously but I'll give them a go on the Clio.

 

[Gray]

I liked the DS2500's as a road pad on my 172, good cold bite and the stopping power was progressive with road heat levels.

on track I experienced massive fade after a few hot laps!

If you're a real man get PF97's, the braking power was comparable with throwing an anchor out of the car and NO fade. But they are a full race pad, they used around 1 set of pads to 3 sets of discs.

 

[Chi]

Can't believe our resident brake expert isn't involved G 172

 

[AdDaMan]

Well i hammered my DS2500 hard for 100+ laps of brands and they were top notch all day. Definitely has to be a bad batch or incorrect fitting thats cause the afformentioned.

 

[underdog]

i use 2500 on my focus but with a standard disc not grooved. they have done 3 track days and still going strong.plenty of life left. i have got air ducts though for cooling so that may help.my brother wore a set of yellowstuffs in one day of llandow with a grooved disc and felt no better than a standard pad to him

 

[Tony Hunter]

This is the same thing that happened to EBC's for a while, and everybody slated them, and still do.

 

[Dan@SJM]

Deffo heat related damage pictured above but I am also a huge hater of the DS2500 (love my DS3000's though).

I'm with this man.

 

[Bluebeard]

I'm with this man.

So you left Vicky then?