Fiesta ST to Clio 182?

[DanFreemanPhoto]

^ Lol that car looks shite! Dont think anyone off here will buy it mate!

 

[clio_luke]

^ Lol that car looks s**te! Dont think anyone off here will buy it mate!

i had to look, and i honestly thought it was a joke.
sorry if that sounds harsh.

 

[Tav]

I was just reading the DR review on the Mountune ST....185bhp @ 6700rpm and 147lb ft @ 3500rpm. When you compare it to the 182's 180bhp @ 6500rpm and 148lb ft @ 5250rpm it looks like it has a much better spread of torque/power. Would be nice to compare to RR graphs...but with only those two figures it looks like the Fiesta has much more accessible performance. Wonder why the Ford engine is able to deliver such good low down torque.

 

[gaz44]

I was thinking. Type R = too old wth high milage for my price range. Clio - poor quality build and tacky interior, not as reliable. I cant really knock the ST, its an all rounder car I think just abit slow.

Might sell my ST and buy one in white. Im always like this, too undecisive. Im just woried if I go for another ST I may regret not getting a Clio (again).

The Clio's interior is no worse than the ST's IMO. Really not a fan of the Ford interiors. I think if you try the Clio, you will notice a difference and prefer it.

 

[Brian172]

ST185's are not crap, but id rather have a Clio.
As for the handling being on par with a Clio, i have never read this anywhere.

The ST185 is what the Fiesta ST should have been all along, and for me that makes it a very good small hot hatch, but nothing exceptional.

 

[gaz44]

ST185's are not crap, but id rather have a Clio.
As for the handling being on par with a Clio, i have never read this anywhere.

The ST185 is what the Fiesta ST should have been all along, and for me that makes it a very good small hot hatch, but nothing exceptional.

I agree with your 185 comments but I think Ford were trying to lure in a slightly younger market, with a lower insurance band, good mpg, decent performance etc.

 

[Brian172]

I agree with your 185 comments but I think Ford were trying to lure in a slightly younger market, with a lower insurance band, good mpg, decent performance etc.

Your completely right mate. I remember reading about the Fiesta ST and how Ford said they could of made it higher BHP but that the car is aimed at a young market so was kept low for insurance etc, but knowing by putting a 2.0l engine in it could easily be tuned to a higher BHP after it has been owned for a while.

Got to give it to Ford on that, very clever by pulling in youngsters and then they can tune the car when they are of a certain age rather than buying a faster hatch.

 

[666]

Your completely right mate. I remember reading about the Fiesta ST and how Ford said they could of made it higher BHP but that the car is aimed at a young market so was kept low for insurance etc, but knowing by putting a 2.0l engine in it could easily be tuned to a higher BHP after it has been owned for a while.

Got to give it to Ford on that, very clever by pulling in youngsters and then they can tune the car when they are of a certain age rather than buying a faster hatch.

My mate has done this and gone 2.4l bottom end (he imported a block from the US) he has gone throttle bodies and uprated cams amongst other things and the rolling road put it at just over 250bhp. He has done a LSD on it as well as upgrading suspension and brakes. Having been out in it I was surprised what an animal it is, it sounds just like a touring car.

 

[Brian172]

My mate has done this and gone 2.4l bottom end (he imported a block from the US) he has gone throttle bodies and uprated cams amongst other things and the rolling road put it at just over 250bhp. He has done a LSD on it as well as upgrading suspension and brakes. Having been out in it I was surprised what an animal it is, it sounds just like a touring car.

That must shift!

 

[666]

That must shift!

For what he spent on building it he could have gone for something nicer IMO, but its different and every respect to the guy as he has built most of it himself. Lots of problems were encountered on the way but its running well now. I believe he was the first to use a 2.4 block from the US fiesta in the UK but may be wrong?

The guy is very clever and his long term project is a dolomite sprint full nut and bolt resto with original 70s rally parts. I cant wait to see that one as I have always had a thing for 70's rally/road cars such as lotus sunbeam, HSR chevettes and the MK2 escorts.

For the right money he did say he would sell the fiesta. Apologies back to the clio v fiesta topic.

Pete

 

[Brian172]

I imagine he could of got something else for the price, but its not always about that. I bet he is very happy now he has it all done!
His next project sounds very good!

 

[666]

I imagine he could of got something else for the price, but its not always about that. I bet he is very happy now he has it all done!
His next project sounds very good!

True, I guess its about building/owning something different to what the masses have?

I did laugh with him at the time that he must like a challenge buying a Ford!

Pete

 

[gaz44]

True, I guess its about building/owning something different to what the masses have?

I did laugh with him at the time that he must like a challenge buying a Ford!

Pete

As said, owning a Fiesta and spending mega bucks on it sounds a bit silly when you could buy something faster and nicer but if you are into projects and one-offs, then it must be a good feeling completing something like that, regardless of cost.

Have to say, there are loads of ST's going about just now, especially in white. Not all of the people driving them are young either!

 

[666]

As said, owning a Fiesta and spending mega bucks on it sounds a bit silly when you could buy something faster and nicer but if you are into projects and one-offs, then it must be a good feeling completing something like that, regardless of cost.

Have to say, there are loads of ST's going about just now, especially in white. Not all of the people driving them are young either!

He has saved a fortune on labour costs as 90% of the work was done by him, building the engine, suspension mods, installing a LSD,brakes etc. I guess it gave him more money to buy parts. Well thats what he told his Mrs anyway!

His is blue with carbon stripes rather than white and very subtle badging which states ST250.

Pete

 

[gaz44]

He has saved a fortune on labour costs as 90% of the work was done by him, building the engine, suspension mods, installing a LSD,brakes etc. I guess it gave him more money to buy parts. Well thats what he told his Mrs anyway!

His is blue with carbon stripes rather than white and very subtle badging which states ST250.

Pete

Sounds impressive. Subtle is the way forward!

 

[jamie rigby]

Or buy this for your Fiesta and itll be quicker than a 182 and you can still enjoy the "comfort"...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Ford-Fiesta-2.0-16v-ST-Mountune/230229/

lol, not worth it at all

But arent Fiesta STs meant to be a bit sloppy in the bends compared to the Clios?

yep

182 is much better than an ST, in looks and performance.

+1

yes get the clio.

the st should have always had 183bhp from factory - it was well underpowered from a 2ltr. so i wouldnt pay 1500 out of principle to get a car still not up to a 182's ability (IMO)

i agree, all fords are underpowered as i knew...

if it was me looking at another car after i owned a ST id just get a 172 and strip it bare :approve:

but id never own a st, way too slow lol