Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
What he said ^^^^
Clio's are far more 'fun' than Evo's.
Any idiot can drive an Evo fast.
Clio's are far more 'fun' than Evo's.
Any idiot can drive an Evo fast.
Any idiot can drive an Evo fast.
Not too sure about the box, he told me his clutch give up so he got a new RS one + RS flywheel and something else from the RS which i cant remember. He said it was basically now a 'RS box'. Dont think its got LSD but i could be incorrect?
The biting point on the clutch is mad, just comes from nowhere, i got used to it quite quick though, when i got back in the Trophy it felt really heavy.
As for it spinning in 4th it wasnt raining but it was damp to wet and it was about 2 degrees. And as i said he made me turn the ESP off as he said it just sucks the power away when you put your foot down, which i suppose answers the LSD question? Does a car with LSD still have ESP????? Im confusing myself now, lol.
He test drove a RS a month ago and said he thought his ST was quicker in a straight line, obviously in the twisty bits the RS would win hands down. He was seriously thinking of getting the RS but said he couldnt justify the gains over his ST.
IMO the RS looks much better, there is 2 within 4 miles of me, Blue one and a Green one.![]()
Clio's are far more 'fun' than Evo's.
Any idiot can drive an Evo fast.
Any idiot can drive an Evo fast.
would disagree
Couldnt even find a good point about my clio as i was trying to fight my corner as one of them picked there mint evo 7 up for 8-9k
Like them or not, they are in a different league in terms of performance to the Clio, without even trying.
You can have as much fun in a Clio, maybe more but Evo's are pretty nice, IMO, when left standard. No point in comparing running costs.
I'd rather have an Evo than a Clio, if I could afford to fork out for the running costs. They may be assisted heavily by technology but so are most cars these days...GTR, 599, 911...Clio Sport (to a certain extent).
Its probably running the Rs clutch and flywheel, due to the extra power. Both items are uprated on the Rs, it does however make the clutch heavy as fook...Worth doing though as the clutch on a standard St does seem to slip when they run good power, and get a couple of miles under their belt. Most are subject to town driving though.
The gearbox however wont be Rs.
Any idea what conversion he has on the St ? And may i suggest some decent tyres if its spinning up in 4th.....
Yep that's why I said performance to pound they cannot be beaten. But that's ALL they're about. There's no style or refinement with them and the running costs put a lot of people off. That's why there seems to be two distinct groups of people that buy them.
I couldn't own one personally (not for financial reasons).
Big deal, straight line speed is just gonna cost you your licence. If it was holding its own in the twisties this is what I'd be chuffed about.
Couldnt even find a good point about my clio as i was trying to fight my corner as one of them picked there mint evo 7 up for 8-9k
It has character.
Jap Cr@p never again
Like them or not, they are in a different league in terms of performance to the Clio, without even trying.
You can have as much fun in a Clio, maybe more but Evo's are pretty nice, IMO, when left standard. No point in comparing running costs.
I'd rather have an Evo than a Clio, if I could afford to fork out for the running costs. They may be assisted heavily by technology but so are most cars these days...GTR, 599, 911...Clio Sport (to a certain extent).
Big deal, straight line speed is just gonna cost you your licence. If it was holding its own in the twisties this is what I'd be chuffed about.
the problem of forums is everyone thinks their car is the mutts nuts and there is no comparison.
Not in this thread/forum though! Seems to be a balanced opinion if anything. Only a fool would deny an EVO's performance on the road but not everyone wants to pretend they're Makinnen ALL the time (see Griffonu's comments about driving evo day to day). Unfortunately you generally hear an EVO before it's arrived, usually in a 30mph urban street deep into 3rd gear...
£30k-£45k ishIve never met an evo driver who wasnt a bit of a pratFrom an enginering point of view i think they are amazing, like the Nissan GTR for what you get for your money however they have never done it for me tho though they are considered a drivers car. I know 2 lads with a couple of older ones and they are always having problems but i guess thats what you get from a heavily tuned engine.
What would a new one cost?