Fitting Spark Plugs

[dancook]

Just ordered some NGKs, I have seen mentioned a 'spark socket' but I don't see how these differ (from google images) to what I might already have.

I have two socket sets, one deep and one not.

What else might I need?

Cheers

 

[Soot1e]

The normal 10mm. spark plug socket and is all you need, apart from removing the plenum chamber.

 

[dancook]

The normal 10mm. spark plug socket and is all you need, apart from removing the plenum chamber.

Cheers,

next question.

plenum chamber? hah, do you need a tool for that?

 

[Jonny1*2]

Cheers,

next question.

plenum chamber? hah, do you need a tool for that?

Plenum is the top of the engine mate

 

[Soot1e]

10mm. socket to undo the bolts. They are all visible on top of the engine. But be careful when you put it back, the threads are easily stripped.

 

[Soot1e]

PS. there are 7 bolts, five at the front around the inlet tubes and 2 at the back either side of the coil

 

[dancook]

Thanks, god help me when I come to try fitting brake discs..

 

[Tom]

Brakes are 100% easier.

 

[dancook]

Brakes are 100% easier.

I hope I can quote you on that when the times comes - got handbrake cables to fit too.. though I'm guessing that's the easiest job of all.

 

[ipodsandguns]

Spark plug sockets have a little rubber ring in them to grip the socket to lift it out.

 

[dancook]

Spark plug sockets have a little rubber ring in them to grip the socket to lift it out.

Thanks, so I could get away without it? Using a socket wrench, then I just make sure I pull the head and not the cable?

 

[jez4130]

I went to change my plugs at the weekend then gave up after i took the plastic engine cover off!

Let us know how you get on.

 

[dancook]

I went to change my plugs at the weekend then gave up after i took the plastic engine cover off!

Let us know how you get on.

Confidence inspired... if I gave up that easily I'll never replace my brake cables, lights, discs and air filter.

I could always take some pics!

 

[ipodsandguns]

okays quick run down how i do it.
Remove battery terminals
Remove engine cover 4 torx bolts.
Remove air box elbow. - 2 7mm bolts/flat screw driver.
Remove throttle body - 4 10mm bolts
Remove hoses/sensors from plenum - simply pull
Remove coil pack - 4 10mm bolts
Remove plenum - 7 10mm bolts 5 to the front 2 near the coil pack.
Pull the HT lead from the first cylinder
Remove spark plug
Replace plug and lead
Repeat on other 3 (do one at a time to save mixing up cables)

Reverse all of above

I would reccomend a spark plug wrench as they are only a few quid.

 

[dancook]

okays quick run down how i do it.
Remove battery terminals
Remove engine cover 4 torx bolts.
Remove air box elbow. - 2 7mm bolts/flat screw driver.
Remove throttle body - 4 10mm bolts
Remove hoses/sensors from plenum - simply pull
Remove coil pack - 4 10mm bolts
Remove plenum - 7 10mm bolts 5 to the front 2 near the coil pack.
Pull the HT lead from the first cylinder
Remove spark plug
Replace plug and lead
Repeat on other 3 (do one at a time to save mixing up cables)

Reverse all of above

I would reccomend a spark plug wrench as they are only a few quid.

Excellent thanks

 

[dancook]

One of these?

http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/...ench.asp?sQuery=Draper 10mm Spark Plug Socket

10mm yes?

 

[jez4130]

Confidence inspired... if I gave up that easily I'll never replace my brake cables, lights, discs and air filter.

I could always take some pics!

Ha, i don't have a problem doing most things on my car, but I couldn't beleive how much work it was just to change the spark plugs! I was expecting it to only take 10-15 mins, then I saw how much stuff you have to take off just to get to them!

But yeah, it was a poor effort

 

[Soot1e]

Thanks, god help me when I come to try fitting brake discs..

I'm doing all four of mine now, all the info you need is on the forum, somewhere.

 

[Soot1e]

I hope I can quote you on that when the times comes - got handbrake cables to fit too.. though I'm guessing that's the easiest job of all.

Thats the hard bit!!!!

 

[Soot1e]

You'll certainly know your car once you have done all these jobs. Take yer time and do it properly.

 

[Russ_16v]

You can change the plugs without removing the throttle body, i always leave most attached and simply move the inlet to the right, iv done it so many times now its a lot easier lol

 

[ipodsandguns]

The above is true, Or if you can get your hand on the clip underneath just unclip it, i prefer to remove mine so i can give each side of the TB a clean while at it.

 

[dan847]

just a quick question, does anyone have the part number code for standard 1.2 8v spark plugs?

 

[Martin_172]

one word of advice, Torque the spark plugs properly!!!!! i rarely bother torqueing bolts when working on the car but too many horror stories of them blowing plugs out the head when not torqued properly, ive saw this happen to a mates 172 and its not pretty!

 

[jez4130]

Decided to man up and change my plugs last night using Ipodsnguns little guide he did. Didn't magage to break anything! and was simple enough in the end. A little scary taking off the plenum and seeing my engine looking slightly naked!

 

[dancook]

Took just over an hour.... but I did it!!

I'm yet to start the engine - but...I'm confident it'll be ok - it better, as I need to be in bristol in two hours.

 

[Flooky]

I guess there is no need to change the gasket if removed with care?

Also do people torque these bolts up?

 

[Fred@BTM]

na nipped

 

[ferrett]

done mine today , thought before i started this is gona be hard but felt my way and did it spot on .. then found the above list lol

 

[TimR26]

It's piss easy to do yourself if even I can do it lol!

 

[hipwell]

Thought id bump this thread instead of making a new 1.

when changing the plugs on a 182 is it important to set the gap on the ngk plugs? If so how?

Also people keep mentioning torqing them up, but whats the correct torq for them on a 182?

 

[sideways danny]

if you get the right plugs they are pre-gapped (the -10 bit in the part number means 1mm)

However it's a good idea to inspect each plug to make sure it's not been knocked and the gap closed up

Correct torque (according to NGK) is 24-29 Nm

 

[hipwell]

nice1, thanks alot for that mate.

where could i get a new inlet gasget from?

 

[sideways danny]

Renault. It's about £6. Shouldn't need one though

 

[hipwell]

cheers dude.

Just need some good weather and some money now lol.

 

[Parry123]

Maybe an odd question but to bypass all that, what if you had a socket that just fit straight down the hole on a 1.2 16v that is there when u take the ignition leads out.... You can see the top of the spark plug but obviously can't get at it this is why I'm assuming you have to do all that. But when there visible, if say I had a socket that fit down the hole and could undo the spark plugs from there, is that possible or is there another reason for taking all that crap off?

Odd I know but it seems like an easier fix to me.

 

[Fred@BTM]

okays quick run down how i do it.
Remove battery terminals
Remove engine cover 4 torx bolts.
Remove air box elbow. - 2 7mm bolts/flat screw driver.
Remove throttle body - 4 10mm bolts
Remove hoses/sensors from plenum - simply pull
Remove coil pack - 4 10mm bolts
Remove plenum - 7 10mm bolts 5 to the front 2 near the coil pack.
Pull the HT lead from the first cylinder
Remove spark plug
Replace plug and lead
Repeat on other 3 (do one at a time to save mixing up cables)

Reverse all of above

I would reccomend a spark plug wrench as they are only a few quid.

why would you remove the battery terminals and the throttle body AND the coil pack, long winded approach!

 

[dt2703]

why would you remove the battery terminals and the throttle body AND the coil pack, long winded approach!

Can you do it without removing any of them then Fred?

 

[Cristi_Xp]

you can leave the coil pack and the TB fitted on the intake manifold , no need to get them off .

 

[James28]

Maybe an odd question but to bypass all that, what if you had a socket that just fit straight down the hole on a 1.2 16v that is there when u take the ignition leads out.... You can see the top of the spark plug but obviously can't get at it this is why I'm assuming you have to do all that. But when there visible, if say I had a socket that fit down the hole and could undo the spark plugs from there, is that possible or is there another reason for taking all that crap off?

Odd I know but it seems like an easier fix to me.

On a non sport you don't have to do any of the above quoted in this thread, as the spark plugs you can access without removing anything. You can just pull up the ignition leads and undo the plugs with a socket.