Focus RS Starts Production.

Ian_182 · Jan 21, 2009

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19269

Cant wait for the first mag to get a hold of this against the R26R

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

Looks like a nice bit of kit. Sure it will be a highly successful car but not so sure on the 'porsche bothering pace'!!! hmmmmmm :S

Bluebeard · Jan 21, 2009

Would deffinately be looking at one of these when my Audi comes up for renewal!!

Ian_182 · Jan 21, 2009

Dan R said:
Looks like a nice bit of kit. Sure it will be a highly successful car but not so sure on the 'porsche bothering pace'!!! hmmmmmm :S

Under 6 seconds to 60 and 155mph is pretty close to porsch bothering pace,i would of thought.

CabinFever · Jan 21, 2009

ian 182 said:
Under 6 seconds to 60 and 155mph is pretty close to porsch bothering pace,i would of thought.

Exactly, the 1*2's are Normal Porsche Boxter bothering pace!

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

ian 182 said:
Under 6 seconds to 60 and 155mph is pretty close to porsch bothering pace,i would of thought.

Maybe a boxster but then again thats not really a porsche. And its quite a step away from a 997 911!!

Ps. im not trying to cause a dispute im simply saying i thought the comment was a tad strange

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

CabinFever said:
Exactly, the 1*2's are Normal Porsche Boxter bothering pace!

Up to about 90 yeah but a boxster s will crucify a clio above that!

CabinFever · Jan 21, 2009

Dan R said:
Up to about 90 yeah but a boxster s will crucify a clio above that!

Hence me saying a "normal Boxter"

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

CabinFever said:
Hence me saying a "normal Boxter"

Yeah lol. They are pants!! I ruined one in my 182 but then mine does have 218hp

Munson · Jan 21, 2009

FFS 'pace' doesn't have to mean pub figure straight line performance. Considering one mag found the R26.R could hold its own against a Cayman S on the right roads, it's reasonable to asume this will do the same or even better. Is a Cayman S a real Porsche? Also did the artcile say "997 Turbo pace"?

Cliosport and the bloody pub numbers crack me up

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

Roy Munson said:
FFS 'pace' doesn't have to mean pub figure straight line performance. Considering one mag found the R26.R could hold its own against a Cayman S on the right roads, it's reasonable to asume this will do the same or even better. Is a Cayman S a real Porsche? Also did the artcile say "997 Turbo pace"?

Cliosport and the bloody pub numbers crack me up

ok roy

Ian_182 · Jan 21, 2009

I think,for a ford and FWD,it will upset a lot of expensive badges and send some home with there tail between there legs.

On the road there isnt a massive difference between 4wd and fwd.

So a new evo X may have its work cut out

Maybe

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

ian 182 said:
I think,for a ford and FWD,it will upset a lot of expensive badges and send some home with there tail between there legs.

On the road there isnt a massive difference between 4wd and fwd.

So a new evo X may have its work cut out

Maybe

Yeah ill go with that.

conneh · Jan 21, 2009

Dan R said:
Maybe a boxster but then again thats not really a porsche.

What? You mean all this time i have seen porka badges on Boxters... and its not really a Porsche!?

Crazy world we live in eh.

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

conneh said:
What? You mean all this time i have seen porka badges on Boxters... and its not really a Porsche!?

Crazy world we live in eh.

Not a proper porsche as im sure milllions will agree. The only reason you have a boxster is because u cant afford a 911. (clarkson said that not me lol) but i agree with him! Im not in anyway saying a boxster s is a bad car cos it isnt and ive driven one and thought it was great but its not a proper porsche.

Anyway back to the focus

Ian_182 · Jan 21, 2009

A porsche is a porsche.

Its there fault if they want to dilute there own brand.

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

ian 182 said:
A porsche is a porsche.

Its there fault if they want to dilute there own brand.

I know. It was a shame they made it!

conneh · Jan 21, 2009

Some people don't half talk s**t sometimes.

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

conneh said:
Some people don't half talk s**t sometimes.

Im not thats the thing!

Ian_182 · Jan 21, 2009

I am looking forward to seeing a focus RS on the road.

Dan R · Jan 21, 2009

ian 182 said:
I am looking forward to seeing a focus RS on the road.

Yeah looks rather mean but bet it looks even better in the flesh!!

Fletcher · Jan 21, 2009

I'd love a new RS.

Munson · Jan 21, 2009

ian 182 said:
I am looking forward to seeing a focus RS on the road.

They look awesome in the flesh. So so squat and with a purpose. In pics they can look chavved up, but the one I saw in silver gave me a third leg. Fantastic looking machine :approve:

Fletcher · Jan 21, 2009

Roy Munson said:
They look awesome in the flesh. So so squat and with a purpose. In pics they can look chavved up, but the one I saw in silver gave me a third leg. Fantastic looking machine :approve:

Have you got any pics of it in silver??. i've only seen blue and green ones.

Ian_182 · Jan 21, 2009

Love the green one

Munson · Jan 21, 2009

Fletcher said:
Have you got any pics of it in silver??. i've only seen blue and green ones.

Afraid not. I was kind of in a no camera zone when I saw it.

jeremy · Jan 21, 2009

I thought that said: Gayman's instead of Cayman s for a second.

Any "S" series Porsche will have the Focus licked. Focus has too much power for a front wheel drive car. Would rather buy a R26.R

Roy Munson said:
FFS 'pace' doesn't have to mean pub figure straight line performance. Considering one mag found the R26.R could hold its own against a Cayman S on the right roads, it's reasonable to asume this will do the same or even better. Is a Cayman S a real Porsche? Also did the artcile say "997 Turbo pace"?

Cliosport and the bloody pub numbers crack me up

Ian_182 · Jan 21, 2009

Too much power how,

Ive heard its totally drivable.Plus it has a specially developed limited slip differential with automatic torque biasing developed in the UK by Quaife. Together with Ford’s so-called RevoKnuckle suspension – basically a tweaked MacPherson strut set-up – the system supposedly limits torque steer and maximises traction to make 4x4 unnecessary.

Addz · Jan 21, 2009

thats just a assumption that 300bhp and fwd is too much, it has diffs and things to sort out out like the r26-R

OllyTB · Jan 21, 2009

ian 182 said:
I think,for a ford and FWD,it will upset a lot of expensive badges and send some home with there tail between there legs.

On the road there isnt a massive difference between 4wd and fwd.

So a new evo X may have its work cut out

Maybe

There is a huge difference between fwd and 4wd even on the road, i've owned and driven a large number of cars would take 4wd over fwd for absolute pace point to point anytime, especially in the wet.
I've no doubt the RS will push a few higher priced cars (hence why i have one on order

) but a good 4wd car will be quicker point to point. Straight line motorway drags maybe not but the twisty stuff definatley!

Gem · Jan 21, 2009

You have one on order you say?

Oh I must have been ignoring you when you told me that

gaz44 · Jan 21, 2009

conneh said:
Some people don't half talk s**t sometimes.

Couldn't agree more.

The Boxter comments are complete bollox. The Boxter and Caymen are fantastic cars and are REAL Porsches.

The Ford looks okay, maybe trying too hard as per VXR. I'm sure it will be capable though.

Munson · Jan 21, 2009

jeremy said:
I thought that said: Gayman's instead of Cayman s for a second.

Any "S" series Porsche will have the Focus licked. Focus has too much power for a front wheel drive car. Would rather buy a R26.R

Ahh ok cool. Thanks for the info mate. Out of interest, what colour was the one you drove?

Ian_182 · Jan 21, 2009

OllyTB said:
There is a huge difference between fwd and 4wd even on the road, i've owned and driven a large number of cars would take 4wd over fwd for absolute pace point to point anytime, especially in the wet.
I've no doubt the RS will push a few higher priced cars (hence why i have one on order ) but a good 4wd car will be quicker point to point. Straight line motorway drags maybe not but the twisty stuff definatley!

With todays technology i dont agree with that line of thinking anymore.Otherwise for would of gone down the more expensive 4wd route.

kyle_sxi · Jan 21, 2009

jeremy said:
I thought that said: Gayman's instead of Cayman s for a second.

Any "S" series Porsche will have the Focus licked. Focus has too much power for a front wheel drive car. Would rather buy a R26.R

how do you work that out ? and the r26r hasnt ? they both have lsd witch will help put the power down

OllyTB · Jan 22, 2009

ian 182 said:
With todays technology i dont agree with that line of thinking anymore.Otherwise for would of gone down the more expensive 4wd route.

I think you've answered you own question there perfectly. Ford didn't go 4x4 because of costs. Economies of scale drove a high performance fwd powertrain package rather then go with the current thinking in the automotive world is that 4wd offers superior outright grip and rwd is the package for a true sports car.

OllyTB · Jan 22, 2009

Gem said:
You have one on order you say?

Oh I must have been ignoring you when you told me that

As for you! You obviously were, i think you even told me to stop talking at the time!

Gem · Jan 22, 2009

Shut up.

And I don't think they'v worked out who you work for yet lol

Ian_182 · Jan 22, 2009

OllyTB said:
I think you've answered you own question there perfectly. Ford didn't go 4x4 because of costs. Economies of scale drove a high performance fwd powertrain package rather then go with the current thinking in the automotive world is that 4wd offers superior outright grip and rwd is the package for a true sports car.

Why is it so costly,doesnt it share the same floorpan as the volvo wich has a 4wd version.

chrispy.clio · Jan 22, 2009

My mate has been going on and on and on and on and on and (you get the idea) about the new RS. He has been saving his pennies for a while and his dad works for ford so gets 30% off.
He currently has a Festa ST and still thinks his car would beat my 182 round a track.
Even when i tell him that having more weight and less power isnt a good thing he still goes on.
So when march comes he will no doubt have one of the early ones.
Watch this space.

Focus RS Starts Production.

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