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That's the benefit of coding a game when everyone is running the same hardware, it's much harder to make a game run on any one of the millions of combinations of CPU, GPU, RAM, OS, storage etc that people are running in their computers. I'm sure if the devs were given more time and/or resources they could make games run well on anything, but it seems like it's just an afterthought sometimes.
My sentiments exactly, thought it was me that was doing it wrong but nope it’s the game.
That's the thing though. You go back to the late 90s, early 2000s and the scale and scope of options was bewildering. I recall having no fewer than six different graphics options on start-up for some games back in the day. 3DFx, PowerVR, ViRGE, Matrox, D3D, OpenGL - probably a few more too! The fact that the devs had to cater for a whole raft of potential hardware options was amazing. That, coupled with the high number of DOS users, while Windows was slowly taking over - completely different approach and capability in terms of O/S.
It does seem really weird how hardware that is way above spec is performing so badly. Surely there's a baseline to performance that with shear grunt of hardware alone, should allow it to run well enough? It seems a common vibe on the PC version - the scale of issues I've read about should be the same if it was ported to Mac or something!So... I installed the game on PC and attempted to have an hour or two on this last night. What can I say... it makes me appreciate Assetto Corsa all the much more as it absolutely trounces this latest stuttery mess of a game! I'm genuinely disappointed as I've always been reasonably impressed with the Forza games, but this PC incarnation of the latest release is being an absolute pig on my system. I spent about two hours just playing with the settings and I could not get it to run smoothly or consistently at all. The benchmark doesn't make sense, either. The metrics suggest my CPU is running the game at 250fps+, my GPU is somewhere around 150fps, and yet the final framerate is 55fps. And that doesn't vary whether I enable/disable RT, enable/disable DLSS, change resolution. I is disappoint.
I'm going back to Starfield until another patch or two rolls in for this...
It's a whole lot different nowadays, D. Whilst there might have been more GPU manufacturers back then, they were very basic cards by todays standards and very limited in what they could do, and how they did it. Fixed function pipelines meant the way these cards rendered was quite simple; no need to worry about shaders and software running on the GPU (which is what shaders are and what shaders do these days). The complexity in developing for modern GPUs has gone up in orders of magnitude, as has game development in general. @Zelenskyy is absolutely on the mark here; the vendors may be fewer, but the variation in combinations of hardware, driver, OS - and goodness knows what else - inevitably means there are going to be issues for someone, somewhere. And then trying to get it running nicely with the host OS at a low level can be a pain (DX12 a case in point, potentially offering some massive performance gains that haven't really materialised over the years). And then trying to keep things running optimally on the (effectively) baseline x86 architecture from the 12th century!
(Rant over).
It does seem really weird how hardware that is way above spec is performing so badly. Surely there's a baseline to performance that with shear grunt of hardware alone, should allow it to run well enough? It seems a common vibe on the PC version - the scale of issues I've read about should be the same if it was ported to Mac or something!
Yes it bombed out on me last night launching a race, has only happened once so far, but have had the occasional stutter and input lag on menus occasionally.
I bought a PS5 for GT7 18 months ago, because I was sick of waiting for Forza, but I definitley lean towards Xbox over PS and have done since 360.
Is it as arcadey as the Horizon games? I think they’re absolutely rubbish tbh.
No definitley not anything like it, although I do like Horizon too haha
God no, very different LOL
It has made a bit of a difference visually, definitely - although I'm running at such poor quality at the moment it's hard to distinguish anything! LOL!Gotcha, thanks.
Having pished around for a couple of hours, I think it's two things. Firstly, the CPU scaling is woeful (as has been mentioned and documented across various editorials and videos on the Internet. Secondly, I think this is resulting in my CPU horrifically bottlenecking and making things even worse. Check this out... lowest possible settings, effectively running at 360p, and struggling. I think it's time to upgrade my CPU (which I was planning) and to wait for a patch! This is the worst game I have ever had/seen in terms of CPU s**t-housery.
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If I run it in Ultra with everything cranked up, it runs about 15% worse...
If I disable 6 physical cores on my CPU, it runs about 10% better.
I think I'm going to uninstall it for now. I have absolutely no issues with any other games whatsoever. Very disappointed in Turn 10 on this occasion.
(Back to Assetto Corsa!)
Bro do you even Fujimi Kaido?
Every time I fire up a driving game on the PC I always end up thinking about trawling eBay for an Xbox 360 and Forza 4. Nothing has come close since then imo. There are better looking games, and there are games with far more realistic car physics, but in terms of just having fun driving loads of great looking cars on great looking tracks it can't be beatBro do you even Fujimi Kaido?
Really is a mega game, I still have a 360 as there are a few games including this that aren't back compatible annoyingly!
Why does the 1080p game from 2 console generations ago look better than the brand new 4K game?
