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Dirty E91
Should get this thread stickied for future reference!
So basically are Renualt saying that if you run your car on 95 you can cause damage to the engine or possibly cause emissions problems and if so would this then cause problems come warranty claims?
Could make buying a used 197 a bit of minefield?
So basically are Renualt saying that if you run your car on 95 you can cause damage to the engine or possibly cause emissions problems and if so would this then cause problems come warranty claims?
Could make buying a used 197 a bit of minefield?
DarthCake said:
Well said??
You think putting a car to market with and engine that will be "fucked" if you use normal petrol is well said? I think that's pretty badly said actually. How on earth do you go about buying a 2nd hand 197 then? What would I do if I was low on petrol and there was only 95 available locally? Call the AA and ask them to bring a litre of Optimax and charge it to Renault?
Nothing to do with keyboard warriors. People are just expressing concern over the contents of this topic, and rightly so. Its not a racing car FFS :dead:
Pink & Blue 182, JDM DC2
Frankly Roy. If it says "Use 97 only" and the salesman says "Use 97 only" and the sticker on the fuel cap says "Use 97 only" as does the manual... then its pretty f**king obvious not to put 95 in it. Only a complete fudging r****d would put 95 in.
Theres nothing wrong with putting a car to market that only runs on 97RON petrol. I'm sure Renault aren't the first manufacturer to do this and certainly won't be the last.
I can't personally see what the hassle is. You take your choice and drive your car.
Keyboard warrior comment wasn't aimed at you - FYI it was aimed at some of the comments targetted at Jeremy who is actually an important person at Renault who's also a really nice and sound guy, so why don't you wind your neck in. If you don't want a 197 you don't have to buy one. Fact.
Theres nothing wrong with putting a car to market that only runs on 97RON petrol. I'm sure Renault aren't the first manufacturer to do this and certainly won't be the last.
I can't personally see what the hassle is. You take your choice and drive your car.
Keyboard warrior comment wasn't aimed at you - FYI it was aimed at some of the comments targetted at Jeremy who is actually an important person at Renault who's also a really nice and sound guy, so why don't you wind your neck in. If you don't want a 197 you don't have to buy one. Fact.
DarthCake said:
So you'd happily buy a used 197 knowing there's a good chance the engine is "fucked"? We all know full well that 95% of owners will use 95. Count me out come buying time, thanks.
Jeremy, in what way does 95RON 'damage' the engine? Surely it's able to adjust ignition timing to prevent knock? Recommended is one thing, but as you've stated that the official line from Renault is that 95RON will pyhsically damage the engine (not your exact words), thats a pretty serious statement, do you not agree?
Pink & Blue 182, JDM DC2
If you say so Roy - Sadly this isn't always the case and I'm not as stupid as you might think.
My personal opinion is that I don't see the problem in Renault selling a car which is only recommended to run on premium fuels. I would take you gripe up with your local dealer or Renault Customer Services. The notion that it would "f**k up" your engine is obviously open to interpretation but if I bought a performance car, that was designed for that purpose, with details saying run on premium fuels, then I would use premium fuels.
My personal opinion is that I don't see the problem in Renault selling a car which is only recommended to run on premium fuels. I would take you gripe up with your local dealer or Renault Customer Services. The notion that it would "f**k up" your engine is obviously open to interpretation but if I bought a performance car, that was designed for that purpose, with details saying run on premium fuels, then I would use premium fuels.
Pink & Blue 182, JDM DC2
I'm fine thanks Roy.Roy Munson said:
The official Renault line posted on an internet message board.. have a word with yourself...Roy Munson said:
And even if that is the official line - what exactly is the problem? You spend £18k on a car I think you can afford to pay 5p extra a litre some how.
DarthCake said:I'm fine thanks Roy.
The official Renault line posted on an internet message board.. have a word with yourself...
And even if that is the official line - what exactly is the problem? You spend £18k on a car I think you can afford to pay 5p extra a litre some how.
Okay its clear now that the point is being missed. If you are happy to accept that when you buy a used 197, it's 95% likely to be "fucked" then thats fine. If you're happy to accept that you must run out of petrol and push the car home past a garage that only sells 95RON, then that's fine too.
Pink & Blue 182, JDM DC2
I understand your point Roy but its the same with any high performance car, Evo's, Scoobys etc which should ONLY be run on Premium fuels. You just don't know if it will happen and you will take chance buying used unless you know the owner or they provide every fuel receipt in their service history - which franlky, is never going to happen.
I think you are taking the "fucked" term slightly too literally. Until you get clarification from Renault as to what the repercussions are, lasting effects, warranty information then this topic is pretty useless.
All I can say is that if it says use premium fuel, then do it.
I think you are taking the "fucked" term slightly too literally. Until you get clarification from Renault as to what the repercussions are, lasting effects, warranty information then this topic is pretty useless.
All I can say is that if it says use premium fuel, then do it.
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
oh my god!!!
EVERY performance car is recomended to run on 97/98, does this mean that nobody will buy them second hand? No, because if that was the case, there would be a lot of scooby's/supras/evos etc going cheap... That is the risk you take when you buy second hand.
EVERY performance car is recomended to run on 97/98, does this mean that nobody will buy them second hand? No, because if that was the case, there would be a lot of scooby's/supras/evos etc going cheap... That is the risk you take when you buy second hand.
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