Gates - cambelt kit.

[dan555clio]

Been offered a brand new Gates cambelt kit, just wondered what are these like?

Are they any good compared to genuine renault cambelt kits?

Any expirences with gates products? Anyone had one of these fitted?

 

[sideways danny]

Gates make belts for Renault

 

[StephenJ]

ah must be good then! what about FAI or FIA whatever they're called?

 

[dan555clio]

You can recommend gates then? Just seems abit cheap for the price thats all.

 

[sideways danny]

if you buy genuine, you will get the same parts in a different box. Gates are THE best IMO. I'd choose them over anything else on any engine if available

 

[dan555clio]

if you buy genuine, you will get the same parts in a different box. Gates are THE best IMO. I'd choose them over anything else on any engine if available

Thanks for the information mate. Do you think £35 is too good to be true then?

 

[sideways danny]

ah must be good then! what about FAI or FIA whatever they're called?

Belts are fine, no idea on the tensioners and idlers, i'm not sure who makes them for FAI (could be the same as a gates/renault kit, but dont know without looking)

 

[sideways danny]

Thanks for the information mate. Do you think £35 is too good to be true?

that'll be a belt on it's own

 

[dan555clio]

that'll be a belt on it's own

It says "THIS IS A COMPLETE TIMING BELT KIT (GATES POWERGRIP KIT)"

In the description. What you think?

 

[StephenJ]

Belts are fine, no idea on the tensioners and idlers, i'm not sure who makes them for FAI (could be the same as a gates/renault kit, but dont know without looking)

cheers mate much appreciated, local parts shop said he'll do me an FAI cambelt kit, aux belt and water pump for £50 all in. Didn't believe him at first

 

[sideways danny]

if it's a complete kit then bargain. Retail is about £120

 

[sideways danny]

cheers mate much appreciated, local parts shop said he'll do me an FAI cambelt kit, aux belt and water pump for £50 all in. Didn't believe him at first

now THAT has to be just a belt, no way you can get everything for that.

 

[dan555clio]

cheers mate much appreciated, local parts shop said he'll do me an FAI cambelt kit, aux belt and water pump for £50 all in. Didn't believe him at first

When changing cambelt, do you need a new water pump :S i know studpid question, but im learning. I just dont want to get robbed at the garage when i pay for labour.

Whats the aux belt? Is this basically the cambelt?

 

[StephenJ]

seriously...belts, tensioners the works!

 

[StephenJ]

When changing cambelt, do you need a new water pump :S i know studpid question, but im learning. I just dont want to get robbed at the garage when i pay for labour.

Whats the aux belt? Is this basically the cambelt?

From what i've read in other threads it is important to change the waterpump but not exactly sure why to be honest.
And not sure what the AUX belt is either, i'm sure someone will tell us.

:approve:

 

[dan555clio]

From what i've read in other threads it is important to change the waterpump but not exactly sure why to be honest.
And not sure what the AUX belt is either, i'm sure someone will tell us.

:approve:

Yes lol, need to learn abit more about this.

So with a cambelt kit, what do you get in them?

And why is it important to change the water pump?

 

[Fred@BTM]

water pump on the RS isn't a cambelt related job anyway, they're normally ok, rare they're knackered

 

[dan555clio]

water pump on the RS isn't a cambelt related job anyway, they're normally ok, rare they're knackered

What about on a 1.2 expression? 2002?

 

[StephenJ]

water pump on the RS isn't a cambelt related job anyway, they're normally ok, rare they're knackered

worth replacing anyway do you think? not much extra cost or wouldn't you bother?

 

[Fred@BTM]

yeah can do, they don't cost much from memory

100000000000000000% MUST BE CHANGED ON A 1.2

 

[StephenJ]

think you definately better change yours then dan555

 

[dan555clio]

Yes . To change this, what parts do i need?

 

[StephenJ]

A waterpump. lol. about £20 i believe.

 

[dan555clio]

That all i need? No cables? or anything? or any other bits and bobs?

 

[StephenJ]

not that i'm aware of but from the sounds of it we both know as much as each other!

 

[dan555clio]

not that i'm aware of but from the sounds of it we both know as much as each other!

Can anyone shed any light on this and help us two out? .

 

[Fred@BTM]

That all i need? No cables? or anything? or any other bits and bobs?

on a 1.2 16V with no aircon

cambelt kit 7701476745 £83.56+vat
water pump 7701478923 £50+vat
aux belt - about £10
plus about 3hours labour for that lot to fit, plus engine coolant at about £15


172/182 waterpump
7701473365 £60.43+vat, but i'm 99% sure its the same as a 1.9D clio mk1 as i did one on mine the other day, that was £20

 

[dan555clio]

Quick question...Why do they need the water pump changing? :S.

 

[Fred@BTM]

basically the bearing is the seal, the bearing drys out and the coolant leaks out the engine, 95% of people wouldn't touch it because "it was fine" and just do the cambelt, but then 12months down the line when it starts leaking, its another load of labour and another camblet kit just because it wasn't changed last time round

same thing with the aux belt KIT v just the auxbelt thing on the RS that i have arguments about on here with a certain person it may appear fine at the time, but i guarantee within 2 years it'll be fucked

 

[dan555clio]

basically the bearing is the seal, the bearing drys out and the coolant leaks out the engine, 95% of people wouldn't touch it because "it was fine" and just do the cambelt, but then 12months down the line when it starts leaking, its another load of labour and another camblet kit just because it wasn't changed last time round

same thing with the aux belt KIT v just the auxbelt thing on the RS that i have arguments about on here with a certain person it may appear fine at the time, but i guarantee within 2 years it'll be f**ked

Better off doing the job properly then. Thanks for the information Fred.

 

[Icarus]

Better off doing the job properly then. Thanks for the information Fred.

Very much so - listen to the Brummy he speaks sense! ;-)

Cheers
M

 

[Fred@BTM]

Irish boy from the posh bit of birmingham to be precise

 

[Icarus]

There is no posh bit of Birmingham :rasp:

 

[Fred@BTM]

there is, we just don't advertise it, keeps the house prices up

 

[Chapperz]

Sorry to Hijack but should you do the waterpump when doing the cam and aux on a 04 plate 182 ? ?

 

[mattjk]

water pump on the RS isn't a cambelt related job anyway, they're normally ok, rare they're knackered

Do people even read :dead:

 

[DrR]

water pump on the RS isn't a cambelt related job anyway, they're normally ok, rare they're knackered

Sorry to Hijack but should you do the waterpump when doing the cam and aux on a 04 plate 182 ? ?

RTT

 

[DrR]

I always wonder if it's worth puttin on a new dypahser pulley though.

 

[Chapperz]

HA do try and read but there are so many acronyms and abbreviations it makes it hard to understand sometimes!

 

[Brooxy]

Would the pump need changing on a MK1 1.4 - Just had the cam done this morning, but didn't think about the water pump...