Getting the back end out in a Clio...

[C.slicker]

How is it done?

I just cannot seem to do it without the handbrake?

Sam

 

[Sib]

Go very fast into a corner then jerk it. Its hard to get a car with such fine handling to put its bum out.

Getting it on 3 wheels is more likely

 

[Russ_16v]

NOT ON THE ROAD:

turn into a bend/corner and as ur turning in lift off the throttle hard,the weight transfere should cause the rear end to step out,depending on speed into the corner and how tight you turn

do not do this on the road anybody as this can lead to not only injury to yourself but anybody innocent who might be in your way.

 

[C.slicker]

But I don't find it controllable when you do that Russ.

Is it just practice that makes it controllable?

 

[Revels]

You cant drift a FWD car. Its just understeer.

and doing what Russ said or braking mid corner is a sure fire way of ending up in a bush! lol.

 

[AhmedRSi]

baking trays on the rear wheels never fails to get the back end out on mine.

 

[Russ_16v]

u can drift a fwd car! i showed that with the jap wid i posted the other week!

yes mate it takes lots of practice to do it right,iom lucky iv been taught from an early age,and its not easy

Revels mate no offence but thats why i wrote at the top not for road use!

and i think u mean oversteer not understeer

 

[Revels]

Revels mate no offence but thats why i wrote at the top not for road use!

and i think u mean oversteer not understeer

Oh yeh, obviously mate. I went into a corner that was sharper than I thought the other week and had to brake and the back end came sliding round! lol. Scared the crap out of me!

I wasnt sure which it was, 50/50 chance! lol

 

[tomhunt85]

Agree with Russ16v it's possible to do that in fwd cars. The 197 is good for this kind of manoever it's a little harder in a 172 to control. Wouldn't try it on the road though as it can definately catch you out (it cost me a new alloy). Find the 5th Gear 197 review on youtube.

 

[dick]

scandinavian flick!

 

[DamoWales]

Your average post per day is 23!!

Wat do you do all day lol!

 

[LegoHead]

Go too fast and brake late in a corner, that usually does it.

 

[Russ_16v]

pls dont do this on the road tho guys,i dont wanna seem boring,but its so dangerous,besides the fastest way on the road is keeping straight,sideways slows u down lol

 

[Justin182]

I just gun it round a corner and then lift off, rather then brake. But it can be unpredictable so only do it with lost of run off..... oh, and make sure your esp is off otherwise it spoils the fun (actually, no... dont lol)

 

[djdrastic]

I used to be able to do this with my Fiesta Zetec S , but the Clio Chassis does not seem to respond to getting the tail out easy . It seems to tripod more than anything else.

The only thing that I've found that seems to work , seems to get into a corner a bit quicker than usual ; Turn in , then get off the gas and turn your steering wheel in the opposite direction and nail the gas.It doesn't really suit my driving style as I tend to be a slow in , fast out kinda guy.

 

[Rich]

As Justin says a bit of Lift off oversteer can be easily achieved. Find somewhere nice and wide and free of curbs to try it out though .... racetrack maybe lol

 

[Shings]

Cant be bothered to read this.. sorry.


DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS ON THE ROAD

If you cannot do it- and have to ask - then what you're actually asking for is TROUBLE.

You will end up backwards and things can wrong quickly and very possibly also very badly.

 

[DrR]

just go around a roundabout to fast in secont then lift of, works for me.

 

[Tim(e)]

Buy a V6....

 

[Justin182]

Cant be bothered to read this.. sorry.


DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS ON THE ROAD

If you cannot do it- and have to ask - then what you're actually asking for is TROUBLE.

You will end up backwards and things can wrong quickly and very possibly also very badly.

Better then him trying it without any knowledge and stacking it.

The replies have told him how to do it properly, what to expect and watch out for and have emphasised that it must be done in a safe location.

 

[marksman]

go round a corner slowly where some c**t has spilt oil on the road !!!!
went round a corner other day on way to pick daughter up , back end went and ended up more or less facing the other way . s**t myself as i wasn't going fast at all!didnt hit anything luckily....

 

[MarkCup]

Michelin PE2s on the front + Toyo T1-S on the back + a wet Brands Indy and it's very hard not to do it.

Huge fun, but desperately slow.

 

[Dave H]

Buy a cheap 205 gti,find a muddy road and brake hard into the corner

Oh...and take a spare pair of pants!

 

[C.slicker]

Cheers for the replies guys, I will give it a go and will certainly ensure it is done in a good location.

Thanks

Sam

 

[Fred@BTM]

place your bets! how long until he crashes

go to a track day! NOT ON THE f**king ROAD!

 

[Justin182]

Can you turn off your esp Sam?

It will correct itself before you have time to id imagin.... still worth a try though lol

 

[S22 JGS]

why on earth would you want to actually try and drift a clio? its a short wheel based FWD car, its not made to do it!!

but if you really must, i would have thought ure other post about a play with a bike would be your answer.

 

[Shings]

Cant be bothered to read this.. sorry.


DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS ON THE ROAD

If you cannot do it- and have to ask - then what you're actually asking for is TROUBLE.

You will end up backwards and things can wrong quickly and very possibly also very badly.

Better then him trying it without any knowledge and stacking it.

The replies have told him how to do it properly, what to expect and watch out for and have emphasised that it must be done in a safe location.

Oh well thats ok then!

 

[C.slicker]

Fred - surely on a big roundabout early one morning when there is no one about, will cause no harm to anyone?

S22 - Of course it isn't made to do it but it would just be interesting to give it a go. Why not?

 

[Peperami]

First of all, go to a huuuuuge carpark, with nothing to hit.

For those saying he shouldnt learn this, its a very good idea to learn, and more should try it. The more car control you have should things go shi*t shaped, the better. But do it in a carpark at 2am.

You cant drift a clio, you're just dragging the back wheels behind you. Thats not drifting. As soon as you put more power down, the car will correct itself. You can however get the tail to step out. Go to a carpark and practice, after a while you'll work it out mate.

 

[Justin182]

Better then him trying it without any knowledge and stacking it.

The replies have told him how to do it properly, what to expect and watch out for and have emphasised that it must be done in a safe location.

Oh well thats ok then!

Whats your point ?!

 

[C.slicker]

First of all, go to a huuuuuge carpark, with nothing to hit.

For those saying he shouldnt learn this, its a very good idea to learn, and more should try it. The more car control you have should things go shi*t shaped, the better. But do it in a carpark at 2am.

You cant drift a clio, you're just dragging the back wheels behind you. Thats not drifting. As soon as you put more power down, the car will correct itself. You can however get the tail to step out. Go to a carpark and practice, after a while you'll work it out mate.

This is exactly why I want to learn.

After I had been driving for about a month or two and I started to push the car a bit more, I didn't know how to correct it when the back end went out. Without speaking to people about that and trial and error I would not have anywhere near as much fun in the car as I do today. At the time some people said, why would you want to try and go fast in a dynamique, the car wasn't made for it.

Likewise with understeer.

I just don't get why its a problem, providing you take all necessary precautions.

 

[S22 JGS]

worth knowing how to control it for sure.... but not something id bother using a car park for... still a public place and every chance ull get a slapped wrist for - CCTV is a bugger.

Skid pan or track day are only ways ure gonna learn it properly, where u can actually push the limits, and get a feel for what an unexpected snap feels like rather than an induced snap.

 

[LegoHead]

place your bets! how long until he crashes

go to a track day! NOT ON THE f**kING ROAD!

Bloody hell Fred....you're getting old. I thought you used the M6 toll as a racetrack?


CS licker will be in a ditch by the end of the week....

 

[S22 JGS]

CS Licker, LOL

 

[Munson]

I've had the back out in my 182 a few times, but only when I chose to do it in the right conditions. It's really very easy.

 

[Ollie82.]

A large, slightly damp roundabout at 2am will do the trick. Be prepared for lots of understeer followed very quickly by lots of oversteer when you jump off the gas.

I shall be on the lookout for the thread with you saying you put it backwards into the scenery though.

 

[Munson]

I have found that understeer is a crap place to start. In my experience you need to be hooked up with good cornering speed before applying a little more lock just before the apex and then closing the throttle.

 

[darren_rallye]

You need to search for the scandanavian flick thread and then go on an airfield day

 

[Mish]

Go too fast and brake late in a corner, that usually does it.

Yeah I did that in the RST a few weeks back- I probably won't rush to do it again!

I'm waiting for the next thread of 'My back ends been taken out by a tree on my Clio'