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HDR getting overdone?



  Lunar Mk1 & Flamer
Just been flickin through my mates copy of fastcar... nearly every image is now done in HDR.

I like the effect but starting to think i'm just seeing it everywhere, and seeing less and less practical photography.

Your thoughts?
 
  '13 Berlingo Bus
I can understand the skill that goes into it and why some people like HDR photos, but I'm not a fan at all.

A friend I shoot with out here seems to HDR virtually every night shot whereas I go for less editing, horses for courses I guess, but I think the HDR he uses can often look over-cooked and unrealistic.

The trick with HDR to me is to enhance the shot without making it obviously HDR'ed. Subtle HDR really adds to some kinds of shots in my opinion.

Let's be honest though:
a.) it could be worse, it could be instagram... ;)
b.) photography is meant to be about producing an image you like using whatever techniques you choose, so if it works for you then why not use HDR.
 

TheEvilGiraffe

South East - Essex
ClioSport Area Rep
Real HDR or just over/badly-processed !?

The only HDR I like are insides of churches...

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Subtle HDR, like the example above is fantastic. I see nothing at all wrong with it.

But I hate it when it looks so over worked and unrealistic.
 
A lot of my night photography is HDR. No one notices as its so subtle! Just enough to preserve some highlight detail. Agree that 99% of the time HDR is gash.
 
Excuse my ignorance but 1. how is it typically done and 2. what is it compared to a normal picture?

I have HDR on my iPhone, but I am assuming they're completely different things?
 

TheEvilGiraffe

South East - Essex
ClioSport Area Rep
Excuse my ignorance but 1. how is it typically done and 2. what is it compared to a normal picture?

I have HDR on my iPhone, but I am assuming they're completely different things?

High Dynamic Range.

You take 3 "identical" photos, one over exposed, one under, and one 'just right'. Smush them together in photoshop or other software and it brings the highlights and shadows out because you can't normally get all that detail in one shot, and you end up with something nice like the shot above.

The more photos you use, i.e, -1.5, -1, -0.5, 0, +0.5, +1, +1.5, the better it should be due to the steps in the range.

Some photos look good with it, some do not, and some are AWFUL.. IMO.

Good example here (possibly):

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If you stick HDR into Flickr's search, you will see many examples.

Hope that explains it !
 
High Dynamic Range.

You take 3 "identical" photos, one over exposed, one under, and one 'just right'. Smush them together in photoshop or other software and it brings the highlights and shadows out because you can't normally get all that detail in one shot, and you end up with something nice like the shot above.

The more photos you use, i.e, -1.5, -1, -0.5, 0, +0.5, +1, +1.5, the better it should be due to the steps in the range.

Some photos look good with it, some do not, and some are AWFUL.. IMO.

Good example here (possibly):

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If you stick HDR into Flickr's search, you will see many examples.

Hope that explains it !
That's a great explanation. Cheers mate. :)
 
  Oil Burner
It is a useful photographic tehcnique. But it has turned into a cult of ruining photos. ontop of which people try to achieve the HDR look with a single exposure.

It shouldnt be noticeable in my opinion. Only in that you have captured images in a way that would otherwise be impossible.
 
The thing that makes HDR so awful now-a-days is what other's have echoed so far - it's way over done.

If it's subtle and enhances the photo then sure it looks good, if it looks like you've put it through Instagram then you've done something wrong.
 
  RIP Dan
That Church shot is decent and very subtle.

My next project is going to be inside some Churches so that gives me an idea.

I agree and find most HDR is bloody ridiculous.

Brazo I really like your style and most of your shots. Must get some tips off you to do it properly.
 
  1.216V Hologram Grey
Heyy, I've just finished my second year on a Photography course at College, I chose to create two High Dynamic Range photos aswell as some other ones to go in a exhibition for the public :) why do you guys think of my dialed down HDR images, (each photo was taken with three exposures), i dont like it when HDR image have massive bold lines and bright colours, what do you guys think? I know the whole topic is a bit marmite haha http://www.flickr.com/photos/54317261@N05/sets/72157630247153998/
 
  2.2 bar shed.
Heyy, I've just finished my second year on a Photography course at College, I chose to create two High Dynamic Range photos aswell as some other ones to go in a exhibition for the public :) why do you guys think of my dialed down HDR images, (each photo was taken with three exposures), i dont like it when HDR image have massive bold lines and bright colours, what do you guys think? I know the whole topic is a bit marmite haha http://www.flickr.com/photos/54317261@N05/sets/72157630247153998/

Honestly and constructively they're pretty terrible. Given your subject, the contrast levels you've gone for just make the 1st persons skin look terrible. Now that can work fantasticly if you're shooting old people as you end up with epic texture and feel to the photo. Where as IMO here it just makes them look like they've got bad skin. A ringflash would've been a much better choice imo with some proper post production work. You dont have to make her look like barbie, but as is its just not right imo.

As for the 2nd photo, thats just a bit meh. Why leave your reflection in it? Just looks a bit amateur? Not trying to sound harsh here, just looking to give real criticism rather than s**t you find on flickr/dA where everyone loves a snapshot.
 
I have to agree with the constructive parts of Sams post, the portraits have that kind of 'dirty' processing which really works for some pictures but I don't think it works in this instance for portraits of youngsters.
 
Page 54 of this months Digital SLR photography is hardly amazing. How on earth did that make it into the final edit?? It's way over done. :/
 
This is HDR

basically I love purple/blue skies in my night photography. Usually due to light pollution/colour casts/dusk. I think a night photo with a black sky is a little uninspiring.

If your camera exposes normally you will get a dark sky and a reasonable exposure on the subject but with point light sources partly blown out. If you overexpose by 1-2 stops you get some lovely colours in the sky but reduced contrast on the subject and totally blown highlights. So I combine 2-3 exposures in photoshop to get the sky and subject exposed well with highlights that whilst blown at the very centres of say a light aren't too bad! It also doesn't scream 'HDR'!

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Albert Warehouse by Brazo76, on Flickr
 

Knuckles

ClioSport Admin
I only use it (I say use... I piss around with it) to 'enhance' a detail in a photo.

If I want to make a car 'pop' I'll HDR the car a little and leave the background as it was. That way it's an interesting photo without being Ott like in fastcar
 

TheEvilGiraffe

South East - Essex
ClioSport Area Rep
Looks awful IMO.. like it was taken on a fax machine / blackberry and then mangled with that bloomin' Instagram.

Get it right on camera first time round, ESPECIALLY during bright sunny daylight for goodness sake ;)
 
  2.2 bar shed.
How does HDR add anything to that photo? The bit around the rear cluster is just hideous imo.
 
  1.216V Hologram Grey
haha cheers for the constructive critisism lol :L luckily other peoples views werent the same... i can see what your saying but they worked great with the other images in my set, and no the reason I left my reflection in was because it linked in with my proposal, not a amateurish move.. imo real photography is about meaning...not a pretty landscape with just some nice colours..haha, sorry I dont mean to sound arsey haha thats not me, its just hard to explain meaning :L
 
  1.216V Hologram Grey
ahhh yeah :L ikr! and to be fair a lot of historical images and some of the best are taken like that haha
 

Knuckles

ClioSport Admin
ahhh yeah :L ikr! and to be fair a lot of historical images and some of the best are taken like that haha

Lol I've grown to disdain people finding meaning in art and photography since doing fine art at uni... I wasn't having a go or anything I've just came to see 'meaning' as a synonym for 'some s**t I made up to sound like an artist' lol... Dear god I have to stop ranting about this ha
 
  1.216V Hologram Grey
haha no to be honest i totally agree :L after finishing college you see that all that writing and evaluation of images and techniques is utter crap...when really anyone outside the whole photography and art thing just wants it to 'look cool' haha im more into film photography, i enjoy developing and processing my work in the darkroom...better than sitting at a computer for hours on end imo, what was uni like haha? did you enjoy it?
 
  '13 Berlingo Bus
I'd be interested to know the settings you used for that one, Brazo.
I find that I have lots of blown highlights in my night shots, even on a 2 second exposure.
Haven't tried HDR on night shots, but I feel like it would really help in that situation.
 
  CBR1K, F21 125D
It's the same as any manipulation, sometimes, it works.

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Other times, not so much...




 

Knuckles

ClioSport Admin
haha no to be honest i totally agree :L after finishing college you see that all that writing and evaluation of images and techniques is utter crap...when really anyone outside the whole photography and art thing just wants it to 'look cool' haha im more into film photography, i enjoy developing and processing my work in the darkroom...better than sitting at a computer for hours on end imo, what was uni like haha? did you enjoy it?

Basically, through primary, secondary school and sixth form, I loved art... Then I went to uni and realised its a load of bullshit lol.

When we had weekly showings/group discussion about our work I made some guy incredibly pissed off because when he said 'so why did you make this?' I replied ' I wanted to, I thought it'd look cool. Theres no underlying message' he ended up in a massive argument with my tutor haha
 
  1.216V Hologram Grey
Basically, through primary, secondary school and sixth form, I loved art... Then I went to uni and realised its a load of bullshit lol.

When we had weekly showings/group discussion about our work I made some guy incredibly pissed off because when he said 'so why did you make this?' I replied ' I wanted to, I thought it'd look cool. Theres no underlying message' he ended up in a massive argument with my tutor haha

hhaha oh dearrr :L that sounds exactly like my first year of college! :L
 


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